MTV's Doctor Dre Is Mad At "Straight Outta Compton" and Marginalizes Dr. Dre and Ice Cube....

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If you weren't on the west coast or the east coast in 1988 you didn't hear rap songs on the radio until they crossed over. Not all cable companies carried BET in 1988. Too short had clean songs for the radio & life is too short was played on MTV. Easy E had a clean side on Eazy Duz It & the we want eazy video was popular. NWA was hosting on MTV raps a couple of times. Most record sales over 500,000 were non-black listeners who watched MTV raps. I'm from chicago where they were no major acts & hip hop stations in 1988. Magazines were where you got information about hip hop. If dr dre said don't play Nwa then things might have been different. Who knows.

No man. If he said don't play the video nothing changes because nobody got into NWA for "Express Yourself". Mainstream media was covering NWA off the name of the group alone....not to mention "fukk The Police" and the title song, specifically. Never mind all the shyt Eazy was putting out.

"Express Yourself" was not the song that blew them up.

I am from Kansas City, Missouri and was in middle school when "NWA And The Posse" came out. If you were into rap you knew who NWA was immediately. Nobody was sitting around waiting for MTV to tell us what was hot.

the way he explained during the interview was that he was there for certain parts of NWA's career...like when they were at the concert in detroit..then he talks about how he hooked up Cube w/ the Bomb squad to create AMW...and says w/o that hook up there wouldn't necessarily be a Cube/AMW

I've never heard anything remotely close to that. Cube didn't even go to NY to meet PE or The Bomb Squad, he went to meet Sam Sever because he liked 3rd Bass beats.

For whatever reason that meeting fell through, and he met Chuck D by chance, who hooked him up with The Bomb Squad. Not saying Doctor Dre is lying but I've never heard his name mentioned in relation to any of that.

Fred.
 

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Straight Outta Compton glossed over a gang of shyt, which is one of the worst aspects of the movie.
If they cut a member of NWA out of the movie, nobody else can really complain about their own omission.



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I've never heard anything remotely close to that. Cube didn't even go to NY to meet PE or The Bomb Squad, he went to meet Sam Sever because he liked 3rd Bass beats.

For whatever reason that meeting fell through, and he met Chuck D by chance, who hooked him up with The Bomb Squad. Not saying Doctor Dre is lying but I've never heard his name mentioned in relation to any of that.

Fred.

yeah I feel you..I could sense a little bitterness in his voice when he was talking about it
 

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No man. If he said don't play the video nothing changes because nobody got into NWA for "Express Yourself". Mainstream media was covering NWA off the name of the group alone....not to mention "fukk The Police" and the title song, specifically. Never mind all the shyt Eazy was putting out.

"Express Yourself" was not the song that blew them up.

I am from Kansas City, Missouri and was in middle school when "NWA And The Posse" came out. If you were into rap you knew who NWA was immediately. Nobody was sitting around waiting for MTV to tell us what was hot.



I've never heard anything remotely close to that. Cube didn't even go to NY to meet PE or The Bomb Squad, he went to meet Sam Sever because he liked 3rd Bass beats.

For whatever reason that meeting fell through, and he met Chuck D by chance, who hooked him up with The Bomb Squad. Not saying Doctor Dre is lying but I've never heard his name mentioned in relation to any of that.

Fred.
I was disappointed that Express Yourself was even made into a video back then...as a kid i wanted Gangsta Gangsta as a video or fukk the Police...Now as an adult I understand why those couldn't have a video
 

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U sure about this? :patrice:


If we take the revisionist history of rap nikkaz like to go with.
nikkaz will say dre, but till Eminem restored his cultural standing dre was outta there.
So, if we repair dre's standing from the original MTV banning of straight outta Compton and dr dre from yo never approves of NWA.
NWA never becomes the mainstream MTV darling it would become.
There would be no dre pool party after beating up Dee Barnes.
Trying to make dre look as if he and NWA had never committed any wrong.
When alternatively Dee Barnes windfall from dre's assault was added interest viewership in her recovery period and more exposure for cube in the collateral windfall from it.
Propelling cube to untouchable status that dwarfed and snuffed out NWA completely as a real draw in a cultural and steer grassroots manner completely.
Like dr dre from mtv said are we being honest.
Or, are we going to revise history into this bullshyt prison industrial economy fairytales.
that were also marketed/perpetrated and brought about on MTV of all places as well.
As real talk in a more cultural based golden era yo MTV with the hetero ed and dre was the life's blood and explosion for MTV and it's day time viewers as that era of MTV viewers gateway to rap.
After the oversaturation of rockbox to walk this way by run DMc on MTV airwaves.


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Straight Outta Compton glossed over a gang of shyt, which is one of the worst aspects of the movie.
If they cut a member of NWA out of the movie, nobody else can really complain about their own omission.



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It is an incredibly entertaining sympathy seeking appreciation piece.
that is marketed to be a moving forward point for dre and cube as non-stigma'd draws from their past.
It is movie magic at the height of movie magic actually.

It is a fun ride but it does not get into the bad either dre or cube precipitated at all culturally and glosses over why each were polarizing rap artists and movie/musical art producers.
Which in the grand scheme if told with numerous parts.
could have been a bit longer and also set up and even longer cinematic mythos with possibility of direct sequels on film.


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I was disappointed that Express Yourself was even made into a video back then...as a kid i wanted Gangsta Gangsta as a video or fukk the Police...Now as an adult I understand why those couldn't have a video


It was one of the beginning signs, in nwa's short career.
that NWA would waver to concede'n to gain a larger draw.
Where eventually they went from a sociopolitical group with editorial first person gangsta overtunes.
Into being exposed and being lead by the first new school way of thought revenue hawk execs in eazy e alone.
As abruptly before NWA even got more steam cube disbanded from the core group of NWA in the wake of the legal surveying of the NWA contract offer.
It was much later that cube would fully disclose and name drop Jerry Heller behind the masterminding with eazy in the administration based short changing of the group's individual contracts to its members as well.



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Your a fukking retard @Art Barr
:pacspit:

Go back to sleep, gramps

You were not cognitive when yo MTV raps came on daily with ed lover and dr are.
As you are a fukk'n pac clone war star gone fukk'n awry with alias login's and mental health fukk'n issue all expressing themselves through multiple logins'.

Now just sit shut cho stupid Pac clone war fan face ass mouth up.
If Pac would have heeded the original advice of ed lover and dr dre.
He would still be actually alive.
Okay so you do know ed lover is like the lench pin in all the biggie Pac shyt.
As ed was around and was close to Pac and big.

I bet you were nit around when yo had to campaign to come back on as the daily.
When MTV just used them as a gateway placebo and cop and blow to wack ass shows that failed and had to come back to yo at the daily slot as well.


You lil goofball wanna be split m night shymalan movie face ass nikkaz online need to stfu.

Nobody believed in you trolls to begin with log back into your other account this alias is dead.




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Ol Pac necrophiliac face ass posters can all die.
 

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More tales from the delusional coast:mjlol:.

Homie really think he deserves a spot in a NWA movie:laff:?he really thinks he couldve kept Dr Dre from having his music played:russ:?
 

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No one is saying express yourself blew up NWA or no one knew who NWA were but average white kids in Idaho didn't. NWA & the Posse album didn't sell until after Easy Duz It & Straight outta Compton blew up. No way straight outta Compton sells a million or nizza4life debuts at number 1 without MTV Like someone said MTV banned the straight outta Compton video long before that. Dr Dre may be bitter but MTV was very important for NWA to go mainstream.
 

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It would have simply because NWA was banned originally on MTV and the video to straight outta Compton debuted in 20/20.
Yet l, NWA needed the exposure on MTV with express yourself as back then mainstream acceptance and the gateway was MTV.
Originally nobody but college radio listeners knew whom NWA was.
As that is the only outlet who could play it as a gateway and I remember when it debuted on hpk and was not ever on 1390 with ramone ski and it did not even air on the house driven wkkc at the time either.
It was not till MTV did the gateway explosion of NWA occur and it is linked to the respect yourself video.

Dr dre from MTV is dead on and anyone who disputes that was not around at all then or cognitive.

nikkaz keep trying to make it like rap was ever liked in that era.
As the spearheading ted demme, ed and dre did is what brought rap into your mainstream non culture based home at 330 after school.



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yeah man bless up... heard Doctor Dre is not doing to well.. I heard he's like blind due to diabetes or something...
 

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world class wrecking cru was big at urban radio and this album was CRAZY HOT in the streets.....before we even seen a video of NWA on mtv..
My pops used to bang the shyt out of Turn Off The Lights back in the day. Like '88, '89 or some shyt. It wasn't until years later that I found out that Dre was the "world class doctor."
 
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Silly. May be a true story but did Doctor Dre and Ed Lover really expect a scene in the movie explaining this other Doctor Dre? That wouldn't make any sense. I always thought it was odd that there were 2 entertainers with the name Doctor Dre but they each had their own lane.
 
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