"Right to repair" Theres more at stake than just Iphones

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:picard: This is a strange battle that pits Apple and John deere against Farmers and Iphone hackers

Apple Doesn't Want You to Have the "Right to Repair"
"Right to Repair" Is About a Whole Lot More Than iPhones

Apple is preparing to do battle with "Right to Repair" legislation in Nebraska, but there's more than just phones at stake.

The Right to Repair movement is getting a major opponent in the form of Apple, according to reports from Vice's Motherboard. And while the battle over repairing phones may take the forefront, there's much more at stake.

"Right to Repair" is legislation would require Apple and other electronics manufacturers to sell repair parts to consumers and independent repair shops. On top of that, the laws would require manufacturers to make diagnostic and service manuals available to the public.


Backed by the lobbying group Repair.org, Right to Repair legislation is currently working its way through eight state-level legislatures across the country: Nebraska, Minnesota, New York, Massachusetts, Kansas, Wyoming, Illinois and Tennessee. Apple appears to be focusing its efforts on the Nebraska efforts at first, perhaps because Nebraska's unique unicameral legislature (the state has no House or Senate, just one body known as "the Legislature") makes it easier to consolidate lobbying efforts.

According to Motherboard's source, an Apple representative will testify against the bill, LB 67, at a hearing in Lincoln on March 9, alongside AT&T. Collectively, the two companies will argue against the legislation as a matter of safety, saying that consumers who repair their own phones could cause lithium batteries to catch fire. It's a danger that's been in the news regularly, most recently when a fire broke out in a Samsung factory in China.

"FARMERS ARE FALLING BEHIND WAITING IN THE QUEUE FOR SOMEONE TO WORK ON THEIR EQUIPMENT."



For Lydia Brasch, who represents the rural eastern 16th Legislative District and introduced LB 67, phones were way down on the list of priorities. "The primary impetus," she tells Popular Mechanics, "is that we are an agricultural state. One out of every four jobs is connected to agriculture. When you are work in farming, you are tied to weather restrictions—planting, harvesting, all have to take place when the weather is holding. When we have an equipment breakdown, sometimes there's a waiting period to get repairs down. At the same time, you're chasing daylight, and you're helpless during that period of time to diagnose, to maintain, or to repair your own equipment as you had in the past. Farmers are falling behind waiting in the queue for someone to work on their equipment."

Brasch owns an iPhone, and she points to the company's exclusive nature as another reason customers should have access to repairs. There's only one Apple store in Nebraska, and it's seventy to eighty miles away from her district.

Apple is not the only one citing safety measures. Tractor company John Deere is adamantly opposed, saying such in a letter such legislation should be voted down "to protect consumers' significant investment in equipment." Writing in the Lincoln Journal-Star, Andy Goodman, the President and CEO of the Iowa-Nebraska Equipment Dealers Association, says that LB 67 would a legal nightmare surrounding inevitable injuries on dangerous equipment. It would "create a situation where third parties injured by an improper repair performed by an unqualified technician are unlikely to recover for the damages they sustained due to the negligence of an equipment owner or third party."

:sas1: Looks like a whole new property rights battlefront is opening...is the equipment really yours if you cannot undertake the repairs yourself?
With self driving cars and smarthomes on the horizon this could be an opening for the kind of total control the ruling elite have been looking for.
 
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:picard: This is a strange battle that pits Apple and John deere against Farmers and Iphone hackers



:sas1: Looks like a whole new property rights battlefront is opening...is the equipment really yours if you cannot undertake the repairs yourself?
With self driving cars and smarthomes on the horizon this could be an opening for the kind of total control the ruling elite have been looking for.

I wonder whose interests the Rs will protect.
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:comeon:Yes i wonder who Apple is targeting with their soft money....its a mystery isnt it?

The best you could do was deflect?


Why do Republicans want to shut down the Consumer Protection Agency?
Why did Republicans just vote to give companies the right to sell consumers data?

Republicans don't care about the little guy.


Sad!
 

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Republicans aren't going to buck their coffers. Good luck America!
:leostare: Why do you hate America?


:sas2: Anyway i see this eventually landing infront of the SC....A conservative leaning supreme court is more likely to protect peoples constitutional rights to do whatever they want to the equipment they have purchased.
 

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:leostare: Why do you hate America?


:sas2: Anyway i see this eventually landing infront of the SC....A conservative leaning supreme court is more likely to protect people constitutional rights to do whatever they want to the equipment they have purchased.
Deflect deflect. It seems you've gotten rusty during your bushings. Sad!
 

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:sas2: So Tim cook throws a few coins over the other side of the fence like every other businessman .....if you look at the total numbers its easy to see where he spent more.
Still off topic. But all the data I see suggests that Tim Cook simply doesn't like Donald Trump, but has found great benefit in strategically lobbying for members of the GOP. Doesn't really matter to what extent because it refutes your flimsy deflection that apple stands to gain more From democrats and using Tim Cook's personal contributions as facts as such.

One his personal politics don't particularly have to align with corporate policy.

Two, democrats have a better history at keeping tech companies at bay through restrictions and other regulations.

Three, republicans are currently rolling back those same protections at an alarming rate.
 

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Still off topic. But all the data I see suggests that Tim Cook simply doesn't like Donald Trump, but has found great benefit in strategically lobbying for members of the GOP. Doesn't really matter to what extent because it refutes your flimsy deflection that apple stands to gain more From democrats and using Tim Cook's personal contributions as facts as such.


One his personal politics don't particularly have to align with corporate policy.
One your post entirely ignores the simmering civil war in the Republican ranks between the establishment and the Trump fans and teapartiers....Cook is somewhat successfully courting the establishment but the teabagger/Trump base will be less enthusiastic about protecting john deeres profits incurring the wrath of the farmers and consumer advocates.

I predict the bill will quite likely get alot of support from Trumps base....if JD and Apple win it will likely be in another state not Nebraska and then subsequently be met with a swift legal challenge

Two, democrats have a better history at keeping tech companies at bay through restrictions and other regulations.
:mjlol: You clearly have no idea how regulations actually work...most regulations actually PROTECT established businesses like Apple and John deere at the cost of smaller competitors and consumers

Three, republicans are currently rolling back those same protections at an alarming rate.
:ehh: As they should ...many of those regulations are barriers of entry for many small businesses and add heavy costs to consumers...not all regulations are bad but the Federal register grew at an alarming rate under Obama

here is a little primer on the subject
 
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:picard: There may be a Russian involvement....wheres napoleon at to help make sense of this?

There's a Thriving John Deere Black Market as Farmers Fight for "Right to Repair"

A flourishing black market of John Deere parts exists online, connecting farmers in rural America with counterparts in Eastern Europe to buy unlocked firmware crucial to tractors. If you're surprised by the idea of Nebraska farmers working together with Ukrainian suppliers to defeat a tractor company, well, welcome to the bizarre fight over "right to repair."

Those who use the black market, documented in a report by Motherboard, claim they are driven to it by restrictive licensing agreement by Deere, one of the largest tractor companies in the world. Those restrictions would bar the tractors' users from fixing its hardware or software themselves, but such rules are currently being challenged by so-called "right to repair" legislation working its way various states at the moment, including farming-heavy Nebraska.

:mjgrin: Seems like Ukranian and Eastern European farmers are providing bootleg firmware and technical manuals and specs online allowing Midwestern farmers to bypass the whole system
 
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