Samples being removed or beats changing entirely UNAPPRECIATION

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Rap nerds man

I’m sorry but Machine Gun Funk does NOT sound the same without the Parliament sample

 

[SwagKingKong]

 

[DeuceCypherUno]

Kanye- Home

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

The one with the weird extra sound added to the beat is so annoying

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Is it because they were never cleared?

Or not cleared for digital?

Or what?



I thought when yo u clear a sample then you can use it for the song and issue the song on tape,cd ,etc

 

[360dagod]

Is it because they were never cleared?

Or not cleared for digital?

Or what?



I thought when yo u clear a sample then you can use it for the song and issue the song on tape,cd ,etc

Lot of samples weren't cleared....

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Is it because they were never cleared?

Or not cleared for digital?

Or what?



I thought when yo u clear a sample then you can use it for the song and issue the song on tape,cd ,etc

Weren't cleared, and at some point either the artist or the label catches wind of it.

A LOT of shyt before 1991 suffers because of this. After the Biz Markie lawsuit, producers had to either only use tiny sections of songs, chop shyt up like crazy, or just use obscure shyt that they could either get away with or didn't have a steep asking price. In the case of some of the songs in this thread, the original tracks never saw official releases to begin with - the versions with samples leaked on the radio/mixtapes, and by the time the albums dropped the samples were removed.

Oh Boy and Breathe almost suffered the same fate but Cam and Fabolous were willing to take the hit on publishing since those were their biggest hits, respectively. This issue is why people moved away from sampling in the late 90s - rappers were giving up large chunks of publishing on their biggest hits for years up to that point, and then when Ruff Ryders Anthem blew up with no sample in New York, and then TImbaland and Cash Money were popping with their sounds at the same time (Timbo used samples, but obscure foreign shyt), all the artists and producers were like

And in the case of say, Big K.R.I.T., it's the reason why a lot of free mixtapes from the late 2000s/early 10s when dudes were putting out album-quality material still haven't come out on streaming and if they do, take years. Since those projects were free they obviously didn't bother to clear the samples, so putting them on streaming requires ALL of them to be cleared. R4 Theme, which was infamously cut from Returnof4eva on Spotify, sampled Marvin Gaye. And we all know Marvin Gaye's estate are on some so that shyt never had a chance.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Big Krit Gumpshun


V's
Took the sample out n replaced it with a guitar.

Krit seems to have to deal with this problem more than most

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Is it because they were never cleared?

Or not cleared for digital?

Or what?



I thought when yo u clear a sample then you can use it for the song and issue the song on tape,cd ,etc

With modern stuff, unless it drops on a major label, people would be surprised. 99% of the indie albums and mixtapes that drops don't have any samples cleared on them. The artists and producers just cross their fingers that they don't get discovered, or if they do, that the sample owners won't think it's in their financial interest to sue over it (since there's almost no money to be made from streaming.) Usually the worst that happens is songs have to get removed, but that's happened in the past couple years a couple of times to Benny, Westside Gunn, Apollo Brown, Che Noir, Skyzoo, and Hit-Boy.

 

[CarltonJunior]

Weren't cleared, and at some point either the artist or the label catches wind of it.

A LOT of shyt before 1991 suffers because of this. After the Biz Markie lawsuit, producers had to either only use tiny sections of songs, chop shyt up like crazy, or just use obscure shyt that they could either get away with or didn't have a steep asking price. In the case of some of the songs in this thread, the original tracks never saw official releases to begin with - the versions with samples leaked on the radio/mixtapes, and by the time the albums dropped the samples were removed.

Oh Boy and Breathe almost suffered the same fate but Cam and Fabolous were willing to take the hit on publishing since those were their biggest hits, respectively. This issue is why people moved away from sampling in the late 90s - rappers were giving up large chunks of publishing on their biggest hits for years up to that point, and then when Ruff Ryders Anthem blew up with no sample in New York, and then TImbaland and Cash Money were popping with their sounds at the same time (Timbo used samples, but obscure foreign shyt), all the artists and producers were like

And in the case of say, Big K.R.I.T., it's the reason why a lot of free mixtapes from the late 2000s/early 10s when dudes were putting out album-quality material still haven't come out on streaming and if they do, take years. Since those projects were free they obviously didn't bother to clear the samples, so putting them on streaming requires ALL of them to be cleared. R4 Theme, which was infamously cut from Returnof4eva on Spotify, sampled Marvin Gaye. And we all know Marvin Gaye's estate are on some so that shyt never had a chance.

On another subject post another sample challenge in The Tunnel. I'm still defeated from the last one.

 

[Alvin]

Took the horns out completely


Krit just spitting over one of his vintage dope beats


The “Reprise” album version so subdued


Such a good uptempo in your face track


Scaled down version that totally strips the soul from the lyrics


One of the smoothest samples you’ll hear



Another sample fitting which makes the song sound sleepy

Some of the songs on diplomatic immunity had the samples removed. They still on the Kay slay tapes

 

[Alvin]

It’s the reason I haven’t listened to ready to die in almost a decade

Buy the Japanese version on Amazon. Still had the samples.

 

[Cladyclad]

Buy the Japanese version on Amazon. Still had the samples.

Rep

 

[Master Teacher]

The whole point of owning music is to get paid from people sampling the music, whether it be in the form of another song, TV commercial, movie, whatever

Also it's a way for more people to hear your music

When blueprint came out you heard that song from Heart of the city, the original one, in all types of commercials shyt, when them nikkaz probably ain't never seen a royalty of that song since it was first fukking released

It was either Never Change or something just blaze did on blueprint, where the original artist was driving a damn bus then he got a big ass check from ASCAP cuz the Blueprint dropped

Sampling is how the music stays around forever, and gets reinvented every generation

I don't see how anyone could be against that

 

[JuvenileHell]

Jeez I’ve never heard Ready To Die without horns until this thread. Jeez.

Thanks for the heads up, I can exit this thread now