Serena Williams: "Do they say LeBron is one of the best 'male athletes'?"

[PartyHeart]

I'm confused too. I don't see how men who constantly choose their manhood over their race can cry sooo much about any woman who does the same.

 

[Will Ross]

I'm confused too. I don't see how men who constantly choose their manhood over their race can cry sooo much about any woman who does the same.

Men are better athletes it's fact not something people are making up. It seems like you want us to say women are equal to men in sports just because we share the same race

 

[The Wolf Among You]

I'm confused too. I don't see how men who constantly choose their manhood over their race can cry sooo much about any woman who does the same.

I'm not one of those guys, so . My question to you is: Does the title "Greatest Female Athlete in the World" bother you?

 

[AJaRuleStan]

Leftist and feminist think reality is optional for numerous reasons.

 

[JMurder]

Top women's serve speed:

Rank Player Speed
1 Sabine Lisicki 210.8 km/h (131.0 mph)
2 Venus Williams 207.6 km/h (129.0 mph)
3 Serena Williams 207.0 km/h (128.6 mph)
4 Julia Görges 203.0 km/h (126.1 mph)

Top men's serve speed:

Rank Player Speed
1 Sam Groth 263.4 km/h (163.7 mph)
2 Albano Olivetti 257.5 km/h (160 mph)
3 John Isner 253 km/h (157.2 mph)
4 Ivo Karlović 251 km/h (156 mph)

57 Julián Alonso 225 km/h (140 mph) 1997 Waldbaum's Hamlet Cup
58 Gilles Elseneer 2003 Davidoff Swiss Indoors
59 Juan Martín del Potro 2009 Rogers Cup
60 Marcos Baghdatis 2010 BMW Open
61 Thiemo de Bakker 2010 Gerry Weber Open
62 James Duckworth 2013 Australian Open
63 Lukáš Rosol 2013 Davis Cup
64 Victor Estrella Burgos 2015 Claro Open Colombia
65 Frank Dancevic 2016 Davis Cup
66 Kevin Anderson 2016 US Open

She wouldn't crack the top 100 of serving speed

I didn't say she would or wouldn't...I just said I'm curious to see how a similar situation would go in her prime years

 

[The M.I.C.]

This thread is derailing and I'm getting angry with the commentary.

 

[PartyHeart]

I'm not one of those guys, so . My question to you is: Does the title "Greatest Female Athlete in the World" bother you?

I wouldn't care because sports are divided along gender lines for obvious reasons. But I'm not Serena Williams so its not up to me. She is one of the greatest athletes of all time though, and I'd call her whatever she said she wanted to be called lol. Her accomplishments in her sport speak for themselves, she's earned that respect imo.

Now, why any pro-Black man would want to take that way from her to align with white men because they're men, I don't know

 

[The M.I.C.]

I wouldn't care because sports are divided along gender lines for obvious reasons. But I'm not Serena Williams so its not up to me. She is one of the greatest athletes of all time though, and I'd call her whatever she said she wanted to be called lol. Her accomplishments in her sport speak for themselves, she's earned that respect imo.

Now, why any pro-Black man would want to take that way from her to align with white men because they're men, I don't know

Is she greater than Roger Federer or Rafael Nadal? Hell even, Margaret Court or Steffi Graf who have more grand slams? I'm talking about relative to the actual sport, stop injecting race into it because tennis has been dominated by white folks outside of Althea Gibson, Zena Garrison, Arthur Ashe, Mali Vai Washington, James Blake and a couple of others in the 200 plus years tennis has been played.

 

[The Wolf Among You]

I wouldn't care because sports are divided along gender lines for obvious reasons. But I'm not Serena Williams so its not up to me. She is one of the greatest athletes of all time though, and I'd call her whatever she said she wanted to be called lol. Her accomplishments in her sport speak for themselves, she's earned that respect imo.

Now, why any pro-Black man would want to take that way from her to align with white men because they're men, I don't know

No one in this thread has said she isn't. The question is does there need to be a distinction when there's an actual advantage/disadvantage.
No one has taken any of her accomplishments from her either, said accomplishments are her being one of the greatest athletes to ever play tennis and the best female tennis player in the world.

 

[PartyHeart]

Is she greater than Roger Federer or Rafael Nadal? Hell even, Margaret Court or Steffi Graf who have more grand slams? I'm talking about relative to the actual sport, stop injecting race into it because tennis has been dominated by white folks outside of Althea Gibson, Zena Garrison, Arthur Ashe, Mali Vai Washington, James Blake and a couple of others in the 200 plus years tennis has been played.

I'm talking to the guys who will scream in every thread about Black feminism, then run into ones like these to claim white men's accomplishments over a Black women.

If you don't care about race then I'm not talking to you

No one in this thread has said she isn't. The question is does there need to be a distinction when there's an actual advantage/disadvantage.
No one has taken any of her accomplishments from her either, said accomplishments are her being one of the greatest athletes to ever play tennis and the best female tennis player in the world.

I've already given my answer I don't watch football, but if a Black quarterback had a problem being called a great Black quarterback instead of a great quarterback, I'd get it. Chances are, all the guys upset about Serena wanting a distinction would too.

 

[HellRell804]

I wouldn't care because sports are divided along gender lines for obvious reasons. But I'm not Serena Williams so its not up to me. She is one of the greatest athletes of all time though, and I'd call her whatever she said she wanted to be called lol. Her accomplishments in her sport speak for themselves, she's earned that respect imo.

Now, why any pro-Black man would want to take that way from her to align with white men because they're men, I don't know

What white men are we aligning with? I believe the conversation was would we call lebron the best male athlete in his sport. We could but its redundant because when it comes to basketball there are no players male or female who can compete with him. He's the best in the world period and that accomplishment can be proven because he plays against the best in the world.

Is serena one of the most accomplished tennis players of all time? Of course, probably THE most accomplished. But I can't call her one of the best period when she could be washed by the back half of the men's top 200. Same way I can't call the woman's us soccer team the best team in the world because they routinely lose to high school boys.

I'm noticing a lot of black people on here and real life are so emotionally focused on white people they can't think rationally

 

[The M.I.C.]

I'm talking to the guys who will scream in every thread about Black feminism, then run into ones like these to claim white men's accomplishments over a Black women.

If you don't care about race then I'm not talking to you

You obviously don't watch tennis or know a modicum of it's history, which is why you failed to properly answer my question.

 

[PartyHeart]

What white men are we aligning with?

What would you call posting an article about a white man beating one of the greatest Black athletes when she was a 16 year old girl be?

Or posting an article about a team of white boys beating a team of white women to prove that Black women's inferiority and diminish her accomplishments?

I'm just pointing out the focus on race over gender that many of you want Black women to have, you don't practice yourself. You were very quick to not even think to defend Serena as a Black woman, but quickly forget about race period to assert men > women.

 

[The M.I.C.]

What would you call posting an article about a white man beating one of the greatest Black athletes when she was a 16 year old girl be?

Or posting an article about a team of white boys beating a team of white women to prove that Black women's inferiority and diminish her accomplishments?

I'm just pointing out the focus on race over gender that many of you want Black women to have, you don't practice yourself. You were very quick to not even think to defend Serena as a Black woman, but quickly forget about race period to assert men > women.

You're clearly trying to transform this thread into something ugly as our points have been made sufficiently. Noted, negged and ignored.

 

[The Wolf Among You]

I've already given my answer I don't watch football, but if a Black quarterback had a problem being called a great Black quarterback instead of a great quarterback, I'd get it. Chances are, all the guys upset about Serena wanting a distinction would too.

Let's agree to disagree.