So who is looking to sign up for "Obamacare" in about 2 weeks?

[Piff Perkins]

The federal government mandating the purchase of a good/service is a good thing?

I would compare health insurance to (shock) car insurance. The conservative argument for this is simple: when someone doesn't have health insurance, they go to the emergency room for care. This happens every day and leads to large bills for the individual later...but also ends up raising premiums for people who actually have health insurance. In short, those without insurance are leeching off the system and hurting the folks who actually pay for their own care.

A mandate begins to fix that problem. Romney put it best: why allow a freeloader to increase everyone's costs when they could pay some into the system. Even if it's $95, which is the fine - and no, the IRS won't knock your down to take it. It'll come out of your taxes...

 

[DEAD7]

I would compare health insurance to (shock) car insurance. The conservative argument for this is simple: when someone doesn't have health insurance, they go to the emergency room for care. This happens every day and leads to large bills for the individual later...but also ends up raising premiums for people who actually have health insurance. In short, those without insurance are leeching off the system and hurting the folks who actually pay for their own care.

A mandate begins to fix that problem. Romney put it best: why allow a freeloader to increase everyone's costs when they could pay some into the system. Even if it's $95, which is the fine - and no, the IRS won't knock your down to take it. It'll come out of your taxes...

Oh I get it.
I'm asking, do you think the government being able to force you to purchase a good/service is a good thing?








Regardless of how nicely you dress it up, its a loss of freedom, and a growth of government power. Neither of which I am a fan of... right or wrong

 

[IGSaint12]

I would compare health insurance to (shock) car insurance. The conservative argument for this is simple: when someone doesn't have health insurance, they go to the emergency room for care. This happens every day and leads to large bills for the individual later...but also ends up raising premiums for people who actually have health insurance. In short, those without insurance are leeching off the system and hurting the folks who actually pay for their own care.

A mandate begins to fix that problem. Romney put it best: why allow a freeloader to increase everyone's costs when they could pay some into the system. Even if it's $95, which is the fine - and no, the IRS won't knock your down to take it. It'll come out of your taxes...

Funny and ironic that romney comes out against his very own system.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Oh I get it.
I'm asking, do you think the government being able to force you to purchase a good/service is a good thing?








Regardless of how nicely you dress it up, its a loss of freedom, and a growth of government power. Neither of which I am a fan of... right or wrong

I can understand that, and I think this position is more honest than some of your previous posts. Gotta dap you.

There was a time when citizens were required to own/purchase a weapon, when a militia was still maintained.

I'm fine with the idea of being required to purchase health insurance, although obviously my preference would be for it to be an automatic right to every citizen.

 

[Danie84]

The Healthcare.gov site is like how it was back in college days, when everybody went to the professor page at the same time to check their final grades

 

[ExodusNirvana]

The Healthcare.gov site is like how it was back in college days, when everybody went to the professor page at the same time to check their final grades

Nah it's more like when registration for the Spring is opened during Fall and eeeeeeveryone has their list ready to go but then eeeeeverybody logs on at midnight.

So you go to bed...say fukk it...register later that afternoon

And then instead of taking something you REALLY like you gotta take motherfukking Intro to Greek Philosophy at 8:10 in the morning in the fukking Winter in Philadelphia

I don't give a fukk if I lived on campus it's 10:40 classes and up or NOTHING

 

[88m3]

Obamacare Health Exchange Websites Had More Than 10 Million Unique Visitors On Day One
(Reuters) - The online health insurance exchanges at the heart of President Barack Obama's healthcare law opened for business on October 1, although technical glitches stalled the launch in many states.
Here are some first day statistics reported by the exchanges, states and the federal government:

* About 2.8 million people visited healthcare.gov - the main website for the 36 state exchanges being run by the federal government - between midnight and mid-afternoon, theU.S. Department of Health and Human Services said.

* NY State of Health, New York state's exchange, reported 7.5 million website visits by mid-afternoon.

* Kentucky's exchange, kynect, saw 57,625 unique visitors from its midnight launch until 2:30 p.m., according to the Kentucky governor's office. Nearly 2,000 applications had been started, with 1,235 completed. The kynect contact center fielded 3,243 calls and 110 e-mails. The average visitor stayed on the site for 11 minutes.

* Access Health CT, Connecticut's exchange, reported 28,280 unique visitors as of 4 p.m. It processed 167 applications, 83 of which were for subsidized purchases of commercial insurance products, while 84 were for Medicaid coverage. The call center received 1,930 calls during the day, with the average call time trending at about 9 minutes.

* Nevada Health Link reported 2,179 accounts created through its exchange as of 1 p.m. local time, and 1,111 phone calls received.

* Arkansas's Health Insurance Marketplace website, arhealthconnector.org, had registered 15,934 hits from midnight to 3 p.m., according to the Arkansas governor's office.

* The Connect for Health Colorado Marketplace said it had over 34,500 unique visitors and more than 1,300 accounts created in the first three hours.

* Illinois' exchange, Get Covered Illinois, reported 65,043 unique visitors as of 3:30 p.m. CST after opening at midnight. The state received more than 1,100 online applications, while the help desk received more than 350 calls.

(Reporting by Lewis Krauskopf and Sharon Begley)

This post originally appeared at Reuters. Copyright 2013.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obamacare-exchange-website-2013-10#ixzz2gaoC62gC

 

[superunknown23]

Unfortunately, most uninsured blacks live in southern red states...

A sweeping national effort to extend health coverage to millions of Americans will leave out two-thirds of the poor blacks and single mothers and more than half of the low-wage workers who do not have insurance, the very kinds of people that the program was intended to help, according to an analysis of census data by The New York Times...

The 26 states that have rejected the Medicaid expansion are home to about half of the country's population, but about 68 percent of poor, uninsured blacks and single mothers. About 60 percent of the country's uninsured working poor are in those states. Among those excluded are about 435,000 cashiers, 341,000 cooks and 253,000 nurses' aides.

Blacks are disproportionately affected, largely because more of them are poor and living in Southern states. In all, 6 out of 10 blacks live in the states not expanding Medicaid. In Mississippi, 56 percent of all poor and uninsured adults are black, though they account for just 38 percent of the population.

Dr. Aaron Shirley, a physician who has worked for better health care for blacks in Mississippi, said that the history of segregation and violence against blacks still informs the way people see one another, particularly in the South, making some whites reluctant to support programs that they believe benefit blacks....

Dr. Shirley said: "If you look at the history of Mississippi, politicians have used race to oppose minimum wage, Head Start, all these social programs. It's a tactic that appeals to people who would rather suffer themselves than see a black person benefit."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/03/h...ncovered-by-health-law.html?hp&pagewanted=all

 

[MenacingMonk]

Currently unemployed. If I can afford it then I'll sign up.

 

[FaTaL]

 

[Piff Perkins]

Unfortunately, most uninsured blacks live in southern red states...

Which is why the south/Texas isn't doing the Medicaid expansion. There are SO many poor white trash cacs in those states on Medicaid/Welfare/etc but the perception is that takers=black people=Obama supporters. They'll cut off their nose to spite their nose.

But still...this gives black people in the south a reason to vote. Yall need to work on getting some representation. Especially in Georgia where you gotta a huge city that could overwhelm the voter rolls if young people, blacks, Hispanic, and women came out in force.

 

[Lana Kane]

so no positive responses on the ACA eh?
i kinda curious to see how this is gonna play out
for ol barack..
the way yall make it sound, were gonna look back
in 10yrs and say "that obamacare thing sure was
so bullshyt".. is that the consensus friends?
and btw surely we can help the OP better than this
brehs.. im sayin

Well they said that for medicare and look at it now

Anyway if you get insurance from your job..it shouldnt matter lol.

 

[Lana Kane]

I wish people would stop calling this ObamaCare. Didn't it originate as a derogatory term for the Health Care Reform law?

I've been saying this forever and that's why people are so sketched out by it. Mainstream media is mostly to blame for continuing to call it that.

Look at this:

These people don't even know that Obamacare and ACA are the same thing. Even a poll came out saying more people oppose Obamacare than ACA. Just how some judge a book by it's cover, some people judge shyt by their name

 

[Liquid]

Obama said he accepts the name obamacare. He believes in it, so he is ok with the name

 

[superunknown23]

Obama said he accepts the name obamacare. He believes in it, so he is ok with the name

"They're calling it Obamacare... You know what, they're right. I do care."
- Obama during the campaign last year