So who is looking to sign up for "Obamacare" in about 2 weeks?
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i don't know this guy's story, but a couple things stand out:
1) he just took the word of his insurance carrier. why not shop around? in cali the la times reported that kaiser was raising their rates more than anyone else.
2) he just had a kid and he thinks catastrophic insurance is good enough? when his kid is making repeated trips to doctor and also getting him and his wife sick, then what.
i wish medical insurance was like auto insurance where if you have a barebones auto ins plan with a super high deductible you can say fukk it i'm not fixing that car and no one cares if your car dies, but that's not how it works. his family will get the care they need even if they can't afford it. i'm of the opinion that under the system as it was and still is (you can opt out with a fine), it's a mistake to require hospitals to provide care. you can't be against the govt requiring citizens to have some standard of insurance, while being for mandatory treatment if you show up in an emergency room. at least true libertarians are against both.
1) he just took the word of his insurance carrier. why not shop around? in cali the la times reported that kaiser was raising their rates more than anyone else.
2) he just had a kid and he thinks catastrophic insurance is good enough? when his kid is making repeated trips to doctor and also getting him and his wife sick, then what.
i wish medical insurance was like auto insurance where if you have a barebones auto ins plan with a super high deductible you can say fukk it i'm not fixing that car and no one cares if your car dies, but that's not how it works. his family will get the care they need even if they can't afford it. i'm of the opinion that under the system as it was and still is (you can opt out with a fine), it's a mistake to require hospitals to provide care. you can't be against the govt requiring citizens to have some standard of insurance, while being for mandatory treatment if you show up in an emergency room. at least true libertarians are against both.
I think most people would have some ethical issues with kicking people out of the ER for not having insurance.
But yeah, this is why we should have single payer where "everybody" pays into it.
He probably bought catastrophic coverage only
I was gonna reply to this, but you would just tell me "shutup it isnt an emotional argument"I think most people would have some ethical issues with kicking people out of the ER for not having insurance.
But yeah, this is why we should have single payer where "everybody" pays into it.
I was gonna reply to this, but you would just tell me "shutup it isnt an emotional argument"
That's because you have nothing else to say outside of calling people emotional.
That's because you have nothing else to say outside of calling people emotional.
JasonSJackson
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How so?
JasonSJackson
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U don't make people dependant on something and just take it away from them and expect them to immediately be independantDo you ever think that caring for these people in poverty reduces the incentive for people to avoid, or pull themselves out of poverty?
Read through the thread
You underestimate people(and by that i mean human beings). Hunger is an incentive that will not be ignored or circumvented. People will rise to the occasion, trust.
Yeah because its just a matter of "will". The rate of poverty in this country hasn't improved in 6 years, you think those people aren't hungry?
We probably have 2 different definitions of poverty...
As well as different ideas as to the cause of this poverty...
But we both want the same thing.
