So who is looking to sign up for "Obamacare" in about 2 weeks?

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You underestimate people(and by that i mean human beings). Hunger is an incentive that will not be ignored or circumvented. People will rise to the occasion, trust.
Naw u overestimate people. I worked in an environment where each employee was given a rack of work along with a list on how to tell which workload trumped what . We'll management decided that wasn't enough and that, instead of allowing the employees to process their workloads independently, they would give lists each day highlighting the workloads that were priorities. The employees eventually got used to receiving these lists and no longer felt the necessacity of figuring out which cases were priorities on their own because the managers were delivering them on a silver platter each morning.

A few months afterwards management decided to do away with the lists and told the employees to work indepenantly........work production was horrible and everyone was frustrated because they no longer knew or wanted to know how to look up the cases independently . They expressed their frustration and basically begged for managers to go back to the old system .

Management did and no everyone is relieved because they no longer have to work independently and think for themselves.......they'd rather have someone over their shoulder. It's conditioning.

It's the same with foodstps. People have been conditioned so long on them that it's all they know and it's all they care to . Their mind state is that the government has been doing it do why can't it now....

All that idealistic thinking u have is contrary to reality......
 

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All that idealistic thinking u have is contrary to reality......
:ehh: I contend that the policies put in place to keep them from being -second class citizens-(if you will) have in fact reduced them to it.

What you described illustrates how labor is near worthless without direction or some one in charge, something i know to be true, but rarely gets brought up around here.


To your point though, people will adjust to survive. Its what we do as homo sapiens. The idea that they will just die off is contradictory to the history of our species. :whoa: Now i'm not saying it isnt harsh or that it won't be painful, but that it is for the best. Especially for minorities.
 

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:ehh: I contend that the policies put in place to keep them from being -second class citizens-(if you will) have in fact reduced them to it.

What you described illustrates how labor is near worthless without direction or some one in charge, something i know to be true, but rarely gets brought up around here.

To your point though, people will adjust to survive. Its what we do as homo sapiens. The idea that they will just die off is contradictory to the history of our species. :whoa: Now i'm not saying it isnt harsh or that it won't be painful, but that it is for the best. Especially for minorities.

That's not what I described. What I described is an example of someone providing someone else something( that could be done indepenantly) for so long that the person being provided for forgets how to do it themselves. Sure, the person who forgets can relearn how to do the forgotten task in time but what r they supposed to do while they r relearning??? Especially for something as vital as obtaining food. Should that person go hungry until they figure out a way to get food for themselves and possibly their families? Would that person go hungry until then?


This is my point, ur idealistic opinion doesn't fit well (in this particular situation) in the real world


And ur right, people will adjust to survive even if it means robbing, killing and stealing to do it.
 

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That's not what I described. What I described is an example of someone providing someone else something( that could be done indepenantly) for so long that the person being provided for forgets how to do it themselves. Sure, the person who forgets can relearn how to do the forgotten task in time but what r they supposed to do while they r relearning??? Especially for something as vital as obtaining food. Should that person go hungry until they figure out a way to get food for themselves and possibly their families? Would that person go hungry until then?


This is my point, ur idealistic opinion doesn't fit well, in this particular situation, in the real world


And ur right, people will adjust to survive even if it means robbing, killing and stealing to do it.
:ehh: Fair enough, a slow transition would necessary.:manny:
 

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Obama fukked up putting his name on this. Website is screwed up. I have old people in my fam complaining of higher prescription rates that they attribute to Obamacare. Who knows if Obamacare really caused it:yeshrug:

Add to this a lot of people's hrs are being reduced to avoid having to provide hc. I have no clue how this law can survive.

Kaiser in Cali is definitely engaging in some fukkery
 

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Over the past several months, Beshear used his broad executive powers to bypass resistance from the GOP-controlled state Senate to ensure that the Commonwealth is the only Southern state that both expanded its Medicaid rolls and opened up a health benefit exchange, providing access to affordable health care to our more than 640,000 uninsured citizens. And while the federal launch of the program has been plagued with technical difficulties, Kentucky’s experience has been exemplary: In its first day, 10,766 applications for health coverage were initiated, 6,909 completed and 2,989 families were enrolled. Obama himself bragged that Kentucky led the nation with its glitch-minimized performance.


my state did something correct for once.
 

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Over the past several months, Beshear used his broad executive powers to bypass resistance from the GOP-controlled state Senate to ensure that the Commonwealth is the only Southern state that both expanded its Medicaid rolls and opened up a health benefit exchange, providing access to affordable health care to our more than 640,000 uninsured citizens. And while the federal launch of the program has been plagued with technical difficulties, Kentucky’s experience has been exemplary: In its first day, 10,766 applications for health coverage were initiated, 6,909 completed and 2,989 families were enrolled. Obama himself bragged that Kentucky led the nation with its glitch-minimized performance.


my state did something correct for once.

U from Kentucky? :what:
 
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A House committee will be demanding to know why millions are still struggling to sign up for health care . New reports say the problems go beyond the enrollment problems as insurance companies are reportedly receiving duplicate sign-up forms from the government. “CBS This Morning” national correspondent Jan Crawford reports.

Bad to worse: Obamacare website slammed by critics

The federal Obamacare insurance marketplace is being pummeled by a damning series of new disclosures, expert criticism, Republican demands that the Health and Human Services chief resign and presidential displeasure as the tech-troubled website stumbles into its third week of operation.

And even as officials repeatedly claim there is plenty of time to fix the problems at HealthCare.gov, speculation has risen that the Obama administration could fall well short of its goal of enrolling 7 million people in new insurance plans by 2014 because of a crippling set of technical potholes the venture has encountered.

President Barack Obama is “not happy” with the problems, his spokesman Jay Carney said Thursday. Carney also said the president wants “accountability” from the federal workers overseeing the rollout of his signature health-reform law.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101124856


 

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A House committee will be demanding to know why millions are still struggling to sign up for health care . New reports say the problems go beyond the enrollment problems as insurance companies are reportedly receiving duplicate sign-up forms from the government. “CBS This Morning” national correspondent Jan Crawford reports.

Bad to worse: Obamacare website slammed by critics

The federal Obamacare insurance marketplace is being pummeled by a damning series of new disclosures, expert criticism, Republican demands that the Health and Human Services chief resign and presidential displeasure as the tech-troubled website stumbles into its third week of operation.

And even as officials repeatedly claim there is plenty of time to fix the problems at HealthCare.gov, speculation has risen that the Obama administration could fall well short of its goal of enrolling 7 million people in new insurance plans by 2014 because of a crippling set of technical potholes the venture has encountered.

President Barack Obama is “not happy” with the problems, his spokesman Jay Carney said Thursday. Carney also said the president wants “accountability” from the federal workers overseeing the rollout of his signature health-reform law.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101124856





Critics that were already looking for reasons to slam obamacare? If the website is running ok a month or two from now, no one will care. Meh...
 
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