Stunts, Blunts & Basketball: The 2013-14 New York Knicks Season Thread

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lol at Melo allowing JVG anywhere near this team
 

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JVG and Ewing? :yes:

Defensively JVG would have us on point and leaving JR in to shoot bricks while Shump sat on the bench would never happen again. Don't get me wrong I'd still be down to flip Shump for a PG upgrade, but he'd flourish under JVG. Defensively. :whoa:
JVG was never known as an offensive genius but I don't remember us looking so predictable even when early on all he did was force feed PE. He did a good job incorporating Houston and Spree and getting production out of LJ.
How did the Rockets look under him with T-Mac and Yao? I know he bumped heads with Stevie Franchise.
 

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Iman Shumpert, New York Knicks
Shumpert may be dead, or at least missing, by the time you read this, having had the gall to question Carmelo Anthony's horrid defense against the Pelicans on Sunday. Iman: If you're reading this from a public library in Alaska somewhere, wearing a fake beard and glasses, please be well.

Shumpert has stalled out as a Knick. You could go entire 10-minute spans without even noticing he's on the floor, especially since he cut his delightful high flattop — probably because some member of James Dolan's band found it distasteful.

Shumpert has used 12.7 percent of New York's possessions this season. That is almost unfathomable for a perimeter player who can, you know, dribble the basketball. Over the last two seasons, only 14 guys have averaged at least 25 minutes per game while using so few of their team's possessions. Most of them are big men with zero range (DeAndre Jordan, Tyson Chandler, Robin Lopez, the ghost of Kendrick Perkins) or catch-and-shoot types on loaded teams (Jared Dudley this season, Jason Kidd last season, Thabo Sefolosha in both).

Basically, Shumpert never gets the ball. He touches the rock just 1.4 times per minute on the floor, according to SportVu tracking data.

Look: Shumpert isn't an ace pick-and-roll guy. He's uncomfortable on the play, prone to wild passes, and capable mostly of only the simplest stuff. He's been a bit of a ball-stopper when he's gotten the ball this season, dancing with it before hoisting a long 2-point jumper.3

But, man, you long to see this guy in a different offense. This season's Knicks are dreadful to watch. No team devotes a higher share of possessions to isolation plays, and when the ball sticks with Anthony or J.R. Smith, defenses can stop and set themselves. When the ball gets to Shumpert, his defender is usually right there, with no ground to cover, perfectly balanced in Shumpert's grill.

And that's a shame, because Shumpert has shown he can attack a defender scrambling to close out on him as he catches the ball. It's hard for defenders rushing at shooters to stop their momentum, and Shumpert can drive by them, slice into gaps, and either score or kick the ball elsewhere. He's a fundamentally unselfish player, happy to make the extra pass, though he has veered a bit toward me-first stuff at times this season — bad shots and highlight-reel dishes when something simpler would do. Stick this guy on the Rockets and you might have a player.

He's overrated as a defender. He fouls a ton, and he ball-watches, making him prone to back-door cuts along the baseline. He has played a role in the endless breakdowns in switching and communication that have plagued the Knicks. But he's feisty, and the foundation is there, waiting for a team who can teach better habits.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10070788/the-young-nba-players-looking-make-leap-greatness
 

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According to league sources with knowledge of the team's talks with potential trade partners, president/GM Steve Mills' management team has also cited Mike Woodson's coaching as one reason for Shumpert's poor play.

"They're saying that Shumpert's a better player [than he's shown] but Woodson isn't using him right," one league source said.

This isn't the only means by which the Knicks front office has tried to sell Shumpert. And it's not all that out of the ordinary in the NBA to take this tactic. Heck, plenty of Knicks fans may agree with what the front office is saying about Woodson's use of Shumpert.

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http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/50810/knicks-family-feud-fight-or-flight
 

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Knicks, Orlando, Boston, Thunder
Knicks receive Aaron Affalo, Gerald Wallace, Glen Davis, Kendrick Perkins,
2014 1st round pick OKC

Orlando receive Kris Humpries, Reggie Jackson, Nick Collinson,Tim Hardaway Jr

Boston receive Amare Stoudemire, Tobias Harris

Thunder receive Tyson Chandler, 2014 2nd round pick via Boston

Knicks, Bulls

Knicks receive Taj Gibson

Bulls receive J.R. Smith, Metta World Peace

C-Andrea Bargnani
PF-Taj Gibson
SF-Anthony
SG-Affalo
PG-Felton

C-Martin
SG -Iman Shumpert
SF-Gerald Wallace
PF-Glen Davis
PG-Prigioni
C-Kendrick Perkins
PG-Udrih
C-Jeremy Tyler
PG-Mike James
SG-Toure Murry

Get rid of Aldrich, what a waste.

That really fukks up your cap space. If the Knicks do that; they'll only have around 30 mil in cap space for 2015-2016. Assuming you resign Melo, his contract would use that 30 mil, and you'll be out of the race for Rondo; Aldridge, and Love.
 

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*sigh* You know for whatever reason I feel bad for Felton. Watching him get destroyed night after night by point guards is just sad. Knowing how bad he wanted to be in NY and realizing this is his last season here is sad. Knowing he may never start for another nba team...just sad.

Remember him coming back to ny with a chip on his shoulder last year?

Remember when he broke his hand last year and we went on that losing streak? All because we didn't have our 'engine'?

Remember when melo was hurt early last season and we all expected a loss in Miami and Felton delivered us to victory?

Remember when Dantoni was here and Felton flourished with the pick and rolls with Amare.

Remember when he was our bulldog?

How quickly things change in a New York minute brehs. With no chandler to cover up his defensive lapses old boy looks finished out there. fukking sad.
 
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