Stunts, Blunts & Basketball: The 2013-14 New York Knicks Season Thread

[ThaBronxBully]

"If I didn't like him, I don't think he'd be averaging 30 minutes on my ballclub," Woodson told reporters. "You got to look at that. I like everybody on our team. So that perception is bulls--- if you ask me."

How Bout Taking Personal shyt Out Of It Altogether And Just Play The Best Guys Period

 

[K-ZOE]

*sigh* You know for whatever reason I feel bad for Felton. Watching him get destroyed night after night by point guards is just sad. Knowing how bad he wanted to be in NY and realizing this is his last season here is sad. Knowing he may never start for another nba team...just sad.

Remember him coming back to ny with a chip on his shoulder last year?

Remember when he broke his hand last year and we went on that losing streak? All because we didn't have our 'engine'?

Remember when melo was hurt early last season and we all expected a loss in Miami and Felton delivered us to victory?

Remember when Dantoni was here and Felton flourished with the pick and rolls with Amare.

Remember when he was our bulldog?

How quickly things change in a New York minute brehs. With no chandler to cover up his defensive lapses old boy looks finished out there. fukking sad.

I remember all of that and it had me defending him several pages ago in this thread. Now I'm like I thought dude was better than or at a minimum as good as Lin. I couldn't see Ray getting punked the same way Miami punked Lin. He'd be a good, change of pace, scoring pg off the bench if we had a distributor like CP or Rondo starting.

 

[BAMBA]

"If I didn't like him, I don't think he'd be averaging 30 minutes on my ballclub," Woodson told reporters.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

I remember all of that and it had me defending him several pages ago in this thread. Now I'm like I thought dude was better than or at a minimum as good as Lin. I couldn't see Ray getting punked the same way Miami punked Lin. He'd be a good, change of pace, scoring pg off the bench if we had a distributor like CP or Rondo starting.

It's obvious Felton would be a better backup. Last year he was an average point guard...this year? Not so much. Maybe he just lost that drive, that will, that chip he had on his shoulder last year. It's a weird analogy but NY's relationship with Felton is that of a bad chick that breaks up with you. When you finally get a chance to get back with her you go out of your way to prove why y'all should be together. Now it's a year later, and you back on some "bytch I ain't gettin off the couch to get you a drink". Make sense? Either way it's not workin out with Felton and we need to look elsewhere.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

And for the record we are all hypocrites in this thread. Myself included. We all prayed for Dantoni to get fired so Woodson could take over. We all praised him last season during those wins. Praised him for finally taking us out the dark ages. Finally winning a playoff round in 10 years. Now look at us. Wanting him fired. Me included

I also went on record so many times saying how JR was my favorite Knick. Always remember how he blacked out in Denver. Well at least George Karl was smart enough to bench his ass when he didn't hit his shots.

 

[DirtyD]

The Knicks have lost nine games in a row. In the last couple of days, Iman Shumpert lit up Carmelo Anthony in a huddle, reportedly for playing poor defense during New York's loss to New Orleans. Shumpert spent the rest of the game on the bench. Since then, it's been reported that Kenyon Martin and Metta World Peace got into a heated argument, and Mike Woodson has called the perception that he does not like Shumpert "bullshyt." We asked our two biggest Knicks fans, Jared Dubin and netw3rk, to take stock and try not to ingest any hemlock in the process.

Jared Dubin: Yes. But also, no.

That's the thing about this Knicks season. Everyone keeps trying to boil it down to one thing or another, but it's not nearly that simple.

"Woodson isn't THE problem."

"J.R. isn't THE problem."

"Bargnani isn't THE problem."

And so on, and so on, etc., etc.

The problem is, while nothing is necessarily THE problem, EVERYTHING is A problem. Just because there isn't one thing you can point to and say, "Fix that, and it will all be OK," that doesn't mean there isn't a whole lot of stuff gone rotten. The rotations, the offense, the defense (good lord, the pick-and-roll and transition defense), the general mood of and around the team ... man, is there anything that isn't a disaster right now?

We can plead for Pablo to get more minutes, for Woodson to run fewer isolations, for a change to the pick-and-roll coverages, to free the Knicks City Dancers — but unless it all happens at once, it's hard to believe it will do much good. Right?

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-t...-fans-contemplate-the-past-present-and-future

 

[The War Report]

Is it so bad to want your team to play beautiful basketball like The Spurs/Heat?

 

[Carter G. Hoodson]

That really fukks up your cap space. If the Knicks do that; they'll only have around 30 mil in cap space for 2015-2016. Assuming you resign Melo, his contract would use that 30 mil, and you'll be out of the race for Rondo; Aldridge, and Love.

Not entirely....Let me explain why

Contracts expiring in 2015 off season
Bargnani at $12,000,000
Glen Davis at $6,600,000
Kendrick Perkins at $9,154,342

Contracts expiring in 2016 off season
Raymond Felton at $4,540,000
Gerald Wallace at $10,105,855
Iman Shumpert at $3,898,691 (If he's signs the qualifying offer)

At the end of 2015, the salary cap should be about $27,427,216... and assuming Shumpert is traded before he's up for free agency (restricted)...Now lets say I add Melo's salary at $20,000,000 per, then the salary cap will be $47,427,216. The salary cap is projected to be at $62.1 million while the luxury tax is estimated at $75.7million. Knicks would have $14,672,784 million in cap space left. Now, you're asking yourself how can I get a guy like Love and Rondo..etc or whoever. Contracts that expire in 2015 will become a hot commodity either during the season or the summer of 14'. They are flexible contracts to me as well. Plus, in my supposed trades, Knicks will have Shumpert and 2014 pick to move along with the expiring contracts either Bargnani, Glen Davis, Kendrick Perkins to acquire an impact player especially when teams start to become sellers. It will be a 2 yr process to get a Big three that resembles something that the Heat has already. I'm pretty sure Melo would take less for more help coming. Instead of $20 million per, he'll sign for $17million per. Also too, knicks in the off season of 2015 will have Felton and Gerald Wallace expiring to dangle to teams to acquire more help, plus still have Affalo, Gibson and Prigioni. Knicks will also have it's mini mid-level exception along with the Bi-annual exception.... Feel me?

I wish I was GM

 

[thernbroom]

 

[PIFF101]

Is it so bad to want your team to play beautiful basketball like The Spurs/Heat?

 

[Trip]

I think I'd rather pay to watch Artest and Kenyon fight than Knicks basketball right now.

 

[Carter G. Hoodson]

the only reason he's saying that because of the relationship Dolan had with Larry plus it doesn't help the fact he hates Carmelo. You would think after having a cancer, he would humble himself but George Karl always been an a$$hole. Never liked him with he was with Seattle and Milwaukee.

 

[K-Deini]

the only reason he's saying that because of the relationship Dolan had with Larry plus it doesn't help the fact he hates Carmelo. You would think after having a cancer, he would humble himself but George Karl always been an @sshole. Never liked him with he was with Seattle and Milwaukee.

most overrated coach in recent memory. the way the media talks about him you would think they fired a multiple nba champion and not a consistent first round and out coach. bitter grapes ass fakkit.

 

[havoc]

Lionel Hollins will be a good coach for the Knicks. Dolan better not miss the opportunity to get rid of Woodson for a better coach.

 

[The War Report]

Hollins reminds me of another Woodson.