Maybe. Two problems. 1. We've seen non PG's as primary ball handlers and 2. I still don't see why the PG's ability to score would be any more important than any other position. It makes sense in your head, sure, but don't get caught up in defending your idea by sweeping the problems under the rug. How do I know that a non-scoring PG is a bigger problem than a PF that can't space the floor? Or a Center that can't set a pick? Or a SF that can't cut?
How? Handling the ball doesn't necessarily matter as much since the act of getting the ball into the hope is decided by 9 other guys as well.
The common sense part of this is looking at how a PG (who's the ball-handler) can maximize a team's offensive potential.
Common sense has no place in my court room.
That's an entirely different argument altogether, and has virtually no relevance when comparing PGs.
How does this work? You're stating that a PG's ability to score is necessary to maximize an offense... just because.... common sense. I'm saying other issues (see above) can effect an offense as well. How do we know what's the most important aspect?
The fact you brought this up basically confirms that you either didn't read my post properly or you simply don't understand how the game works. The formula of USG% is based on FGA, FT and TOV against the time they're on court - not how the offense is run, not how long a player has the ball in his hands, not who's running the offense, not who's playmaking/passing the ball/setting players up and getting assists, not who's feeding the hot hand, not who's directing his offensive personnel in the halfcourt, not who's running the fastbreak, not who's dictating the tempo etc etc. DeRozan has the higher USG% basically because he's the higher volume shooter v the time he's on the court. CP3 is 3rd in USG% on his own team (2nd as a starter), yet he still has the most influence on the offense and handles the ball the most.
It's what they do with the ball in hand - again meaning that a player who's an equal threat to shoot/pass needs to balance it in accordance to what the team needs in order for them to maximize their offensive potential (see: list of factors above). Again, take CP3 for instance, the Clippers offensive potential with their current squad is predicated on his aggressiveness and ability as a scorer (while balancing when to pass) because he's the one whom controls the offense.
In other words, the important aspect is the one you decide to focus on? I'll play along briefly, just because you need to see the problems with the inferences drawn from assumptions. Even if you focus on the aspects you highlight, what does scoring ability have to do with each factor? You throw out a bunch of stuff without connecting it to your working theory. Again, I'm not conceding that your working theory is correct, I'm saying that you are not sufficiently proving anything. It's interesting how finely you parse each aspect of the PG's play without taking into account the totality of the circumstances for a team's offense.
It's all about finding that balance throughout the course of a game, relative to what your team needs in order to reach their utmost potential on offense. It's why you see Westbrook (who hasn't mastered it yet) and Curry warp defensive schemes the way they do.
Do you believe that Kyle Lowry affects the opposing defense more than Jason Kidd?
The fact you're even arguing this shows you're not watching Raptors games either.
I'm not. I'm just trying to understand how Kyle Lowry is better than Jason Kidd.
Lowry is 12th in the league in time of possession (behinds the likes of Harden, Westbrook, Wall, Lillard, Kemba, CP3, Conley, I.Thomas etc etc - basically you see the trend of main ball-handlers who're the PGs of their respective teams) - the next ranked Raptors player is near 50th (DeRozan)
Lowry is 8th in the league in passes made with 62.8 per game (behind the likes of Paul, Harden, Bledsoe etc etc - again, you see the trend of main ball-handlers who're the PGs of their respective teams) - the next ranked Raptors player is near 100th (Patterson with 36.8 per game)
The player that has the ball in his hands the most and is making the most passes is typically the player who has the most influence on the offense - there can be exceptions but this is a general rule.
First, you need to always provide your sources
Second, your obligation is to show that the player spending the most time with the ball must be able to score. And by "Show" i mean establish each tenet of your theory with actual data, not ask me to accept pure assertion, "common sense" or any other cheap alternatives.
Third, and most importantly: Who is better: Prime Kidd or Prime CP3?
Fourth, and mostly for my amusement. Who is better, Prime CP3 or Prime Lowry?
