The Coli Where we rank Kyle Lowry over Jason Kidd.. Scust @malta

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J Kidd never shyt the bed like this
Kidd shat the bed plenty of times in the playoffs. Sure Lowry most definitely wasn't aggressive enough on the offensive side in this series, but Kidd would handcuff the Nets' offense to the wall in the postseason because his inability and reluctance to score.
 
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He did with the season on the line in 2004

But the funny shyt is on the low, kidd has better career shooting %s in the postseason than lowry across the board lol
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Lowry is a more efficient scorer in the postseason (and in the regular season) though. Go check those percentages again.
 

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I don't care about Lowry's "scoring"
He isnt an offensive anchor
Kidd was low usage, god-tier assist rate, low turnover guard aka a steroid shot for any offense. Thats more valuable than a scoring PG.
Add in that he was an elite and versatile defender and this is not close.
 
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I don't care about Lowry's "scoring"
He isnt an offensive anchor
Kidd was low usage, god-tier assist rate, low turnover guard aka a steroid shot for any offense. Thats more valuable than a scoring PG.
Add in that he was an elite and versatile defender and this is not close.
:mjlol: at all of this dumb shyt.

lol at Kidd being anything remotely close to an offensive anchor :dead:
lol at Kidd being a "god-tier assist rate, low turnover guard" :dead:

How the fukk would you know anything about Kidd's play when you're what, in your early 20s? :mjlol:
 
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But isn't Kidd this great floor general and PG? All I see is you giving excuses to a player whose reputation exceeds a role player's justification. If he makes teammates better, and plays to their strengths, why were they so poor offensively?

But one can blame him for them having an inefficient offense.

94/95 - playing next to McCloud and Jackson - ended up with the 15th ranked offense
95/96 - relatively the same personnel - finished with the 19th ranked offense.
96/97 DAL - he only played 22 games - finished with the 28th ranked offense
96/97 PHO - he only played 33 games (started only 22), KJ was the one leading the team that season and they had the 6th ranked offense.
97/98 - Kidd took over starting duties, with relatively the same personnel and they ended with the 12th ranked offense (Nash had superior on-court points production than Kidd - propping up the points per 100 possessions - however, keep in mind it was mostly against second units)
98/99 - lockout season, 50 games, few extra changes to the personnel and they end up with the 4th ranked offense - no coincidence it was statistically Kidd's best shooting season.
99/00 - few extra personnel changes, most notably Penny, and they had the 12th ranked offense
00/01 - Penny was injured for pretty much the entire season, and they had the 22nd ranked offense

2001/02 Nets - 17th ranked offfense (Kidd averaged 37 minutes)
2002/03 Nets - 18th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 37 minutes)
2003/04 Nets - 25th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 36 minutes)
2004/05 Nets - 26th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 36 minutes)
2005/06 Nets - 25th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 37 minutes)
2006/07 Nets - 16th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 36 minutes)
2007/08 Nets - 25th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 36 minutes)

Across 14-15 seasons when Kidd was the leader of the team, he only orchestrated ONE top-10 offense. I can divide. That's one great offense every 14 season average and that's so....

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Bu-bu-but Kidd was a steroid shot for any offense.

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