The Coli Where we rank Kyle Lowry over Jason Kidd.. Scust @malta

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Jason kidd was an all star at age 33

He was picked as a reserve. And why do y'all cats bring up All-Star appearances as if it means anything? It's purely based on popularity and narrative.

Regardless of that, he was bordering on being a role player at that stage of his career, and if you compare him to what Lowry is doing right now, at the same age, well, you might as well pick up your ball and leave the thread.

Y'all nikkas are so attached to the past that you can't value what's going on in the present properly.

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

He was picked as a reserve. And why do y'all cats bring up All-Star appearances as if it means anything? It's purely based on popularity and narrative.

Regardless of that, he was bordering on being a role player at that stage of his career, and if you compare him to what Lowry is doing right now, at the same age, well, you might as well pick up your ball and leave the thread.

Because you said he was a role player when he wasnt. Also being picked as a reserve holds more weight than being picked as a starter

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Because you said he was a role player when he wasnt.

He pretty much was; he was certainly transitioning into one. Vince and Jefferson were carrying the main scoring load and he was in the background. I guess it really depends on what your definition of a role player is, but in generality, that's what he was bordering on. Keep in mind, not even a year later he was traded to Dallas. Perhaps your memory deceives you.

Regardless of that, if that's the only thing you have against my argument, then you're only proving my point that Lowry is better at the same age.

Also being picked as a reserve holds more weight than being picked as a starter

It doesn't hold any weight in this context.

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

@Gil Scott-Heroin you make up your own rules as you go...I say kidd was an all star but you say that he was pretty much a role player..this is why debating with you is pointless

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@Gil Scott-Heroin you make up your own rules as you go..

This doesn't mean what you think it means.

I say kidd was an all star but you say that he was pretty much a role player..this is why debating with you is pointless

Dirk was an All-Star last season and he was a role player.

Kidd was transitioning into being a role player at the age of 33. At 34, in Dallas, he was a role player. Why debate over something so trivial in the context of this argument? All the other discussions we've had you've done the exact same thing. Instead of speaking about the bigger picture, you're too focused on minutiae. It's what folks typically do when they know they can't win the argument itself, so they single out other shyt that is of little-to-no importance.

All-Star selections don't mean a cotdamn thing when we're discussing what's actually happening on the floor. Why can't you grasp this simple concept?

Now do you have an argument that Kidd was better at the same age or not?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

A.C. Green was a role player in 1990 and he was an All-Star
James Donaldson was a role player in 1988 and he was an All-Star
Mark Eaton was a role player in 1989 and he was an All-Star
Allen Iverson was a role player in 2010 and he was an All-Star
Roy Hibbert was a role player in 2014 and he was an All-Star
Dale Davis was a role player in 2000 and he was an All-Star
Don Buse was a role player in 1977 and he was an All-Star
B.J. Armstrong was a role player in 1994 and he was an All-Star

The list goes on and on.

Contrary to your belief @Cereal_Bowl_Assassin you can be a role player (or border on being a role player) and make the All-Star game. As I keep trying to reiterate to you, All-Star selections are based on popularity and narrative.

 

[Sccit]

Jason kidd was an all star at age 33

AN ALLSTAR UP UNTIL 36.

AND IF U PLAYED FANTASY BASKETBALL IN THEM YEARS N FOLLOWED HIM CLOSE, U KNEW HIS VALUE WAS FAR BEYOND A “ROLE PLAYER”.

BUT THIS DUDE WILL SAY ANYTHING TO FEEL VINDICATED.. I JUST CANT TELL WHETHER HE TRULY BELIEVES IT OR WHETHER HE JUST SAYS IT OUT OF PRIDE TO COVER HIS ASS.

EITHER WAY ITS EMBARRASSING.

 

[Lakerman0834]

AN ALLSTAR UP UNTIL 36.

AND IF U PLAYED FANTASY BASKETBALL IN THEM YEARS N FOLLOWED HIM CLOSE, U KNEW HIS VALUE WAS FAR BEYOND A “ROLE PLAYER”.

BUT THIS DUDE WILL SAY ANYTHING TO FEEL VINDICATED.. I JUST CANT TELL WHETHER HE TRULY BELIEVES IT OR WHETHER HE JUST SAYS IT OUT OF PRIDE TO COVER HIS ASS.

EITHER WAY ITS EMBARRASSING.

Go easy on @Gil Scott-Heroin hes obviously mentally ill posting constantly for 24 hrs upping old threads that he’s been embarrassed in. GS being exposed has obviously triggered a manic episode

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

AN ALLSTAR UP UNTIL 36.

Bringing that up only drowns out @Cereal_Bowl_Assassin's point about a role player not being an All-Star, even more.

AND IF U PLAYED FANTASY BASKETBALL IN THEM YEARS N FOLLOWED HIM CLOSE, U KNEW HIS VALUE WAS FAR BEYOND A “ROLE PLAYER”.

If you played fantasy basketball?



Please tell me this muh'fukka didn't just bring up fantasy basketball in reference to the actual game. Fantasy muh'fukken basketball. Now all your opinions suddenly make sense since you use measurements like fantasy basketball to evaluate players and the game.

Fantasy basketball.... Lord have mercy.

Here I was watching Kidd, live, in person, regularly, when he was with the Nets, and this muh'fukka thinks his opinion has merit because he played fantasy basketball with Kidd on his team. In what reality do you live in where fantasy basketball can tell you anything about the game?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Go easy on @Gil Scott-Heroin hes obviously mentally ill posting constantly for 24 hrs upping old threads that he’s been embarrassed in. GS being exposed has obviously triggered a manic episode

Why are you constantly bringing up irrelevant topics to distract away from the fact you expose your lack of knowledge in every thread? Why are you completely incapable of discussing the game?



Lowry's been ballin' to start the season, but, of course, you'd have no knowledge of this because you don't watch any games besides Lakers'.

 

[Sccit]

Bringing that up only drowns out @Cereal_Bowl_Assassin's point about a role player not being an All-Star, even more.



If you played fantasy basketball?



Please tell me this muh'fukka didn't just bring up fantasy basketball in reference to the actual game. Fantasy muh'fukken basketball. Now all your opinions suddenly make sense since you use measurements like fantasy basketball to evaluate players and the game.

Fantasy basketball.... Lord have mercy.

Here I was watching Kidd, live, in person, regularly, when he was with the Nets, and this muh'fukka thinks his opinion has merit because he played fantasy basketball with Kidd on his team. In what reality do you live in where fantasy basketball can tell you anything about the game?

IN REGARDS TO FANTASY BASKETBALL, WHEN U PLAY, U WATCH THE TEAMS AND PLAYERS MUCH CLOSER.. THAT WAS MY POINT. US WHO HAD MONEY ON IT WERE PAYING ATTENTION TO KIDD WAY MORE THAN AN ESPN HIGHLIGHT WATCHER LIKE U.

ON TOP OF THAT, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A ROLE PLAYER WHO GETS DRAFTED IN THE FIRST FEW ROUNDS OF FANTASY.

SO YES, FANTASY BASKETBALL DOES INDEED GIVE US INCENTIVE TO WATCH PLAYERS CLOSELY, WHICH IS SOMETHING U CLEARLY HAVENT DONE ENOUGH OF.

 

[easymoneysniper]

IN REGARDS TO FANTASY BASKETBALL, WHEN U PLAY, U WATCH THE TEAMS AND PLAYERS MUCH CLOSER.. THAT WAS MY POINT.
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Facts!

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

IN REGARDS TO FANTASY BASKETBALL, WHEN U PLAY, U WATCH THE TEAMS AND PLAYERS MUCH CLOSER.. THAT WAS MY POINT.

You watch fantasy basketball to see how many points, rebounds, assists, etc a player can get; i.e. watching the game for box-score stats.

The fact that you even brought up fantasy basketball in the first place to layer whatever nonsensical argument you're trying to make is hilarious. Why even reference that in the first place, and not just say if you were paying attention and watching Kidd back then, you'd know. Bringing up fantasy basketball to make any point about the actual game is what I'd expect from someone like you who doesn't know what they're talking about.

WAY MORE THAN AN ESPN HIGHLIGHT WATCHER LIKE U.

Nah, you don't get to do this.

Don't try and shift the focus from the fact that all you do is look at box score stats and highlights when it concerns players that are not on the Lakers. You were caught out multiple times in that Julius thread pulling this shyt.

ON TOP OF THAT, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A ROLE PLAYER WHO GETS DRAFTED IN THE FIRST FEW ROUNDS OF FANTASY.

This muh'fukka just doubled-down on this shyt. If you're using a fantasy game which tallies box-score stats to dictate to you how to measure and value players and the game itself, then basketball is not the sport for you.

I'm speechless.

This board has a serious issue with looking at the game through the lens of box-score stats.

 

[Sccit]

I CAN SPEND MY ENTIRE DAY LOOKIN UP WOAT TAKES BY @Gil Scott-Crack

VVVV

Wiggins' game isn't built for college ball, he'll shine in the league. Dudes clearly don't know how to evaluate talent.

Wiggins isn't nearly as bad as KAT.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

SO YES, FANTASY BASKETBALL DOES INDEED GIVE US INCENTIVE TO WATCH PLAYERS CLOSELY, WHICH IS SOMETHING U CLEARLY HAVENT DONE ENOUGH OF.

I don't need no cotdamn fantasy game to give me incentive to watch games; I watch games because I fukks with basketball. Point. Blank. Period. I don't have any ulterior motive or any incentive to push me to watch it besides the fact I love the game.

Fantasy basketball doesn't tell you shyt about how the game works, nor does it make you pay attention to the nuances of the game.