the female wage gap is fake and makes no logical sense

[SouthernBelle]

I know. The thing is, even with this example there are too many things that slant these broad general stats.

For example: Based on this graph do you think companies are hiring Black dudes more than Hispanic ones just off GP? Even white looking Hispanic men? Or do you think the fact that most of the Hispanic workforce is doing unskilled labor have something to do with it?

I'm not saying there isn't foul play and bias in hiring practice and wages but that happens on a individual level and case by case usually. Only way to mitigate it is to be the one dishing out the jobs.

That is a contributing factor, but definitely not only factor. It's also by design that minority men and women are often at the bottom of the occupational totem pole. The ability to even access certain high skilled (low education) jobs depends on racialized social network.

You are easily fooled if you think racial and gender inequality in occupation and wage attainment is individual and not systematic.

 

[Lil Gangsta]

@SouthernBelle is too smart for these dumb ass nikkas maine

She bae as hell

 

[Kenny West]

That is a contributing factor, but definitely not only factor. It's also by design that minority men and women are often at the bottom of the occupational totem pole. The ability to even access certain high skilled (low education) jobs depends on racialized social network.

You are easily fooled if you think racial and gender inequality in occupation and wage attainment is individual and not systematic.

It is THE contributing factor if most of the first gen hispanics are working in the country without knowing a lick of english. They'll catch up in the wage gap as their future generations become more educated.

I agree that there is systematic measures in place to keep down minorities/keep up white people. But I disagree that there is one to disenfranchise women.

And that system can be subverted. you live in america for god's sake, this is what people come to the country to do.

 

[bcrusaderw]

If it was real these companies would fire all the men and hire women to save 25% on costs

Non-blacks make much less than whites, yet you don't see companies going out, and hiring non-whites in droves do you? Could it be that employers prefer white employees over non-white ones no matter the cost? Could it be that companies prefer male employees no matter the cost?

 

[SouthernBelle]

It's not true because most importantly

Women earn less because they work in industries that pay less.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...5cff34-fcd5-11e3-8176-f2c941cf35f1_story.html

But a majority of the pay gap between men and women actually comes from differences within occupations, not between them — and widens in the highest-paying ones like business, law and medicine, according to data from Claudia Goldin, a Harvard University labor economist and a leading scholar on women and the economy.

Here's an even more detail description of the gap occupation by occupation

How do you explain the above @Meet The Sniper

 

[SouthernBelle]

@SouthernBelle is too smart for these dumb ass nikkas maine

She bae as hell

 

[HookersandIceCream]

How you posting charts and quotes and no links

what is wrong and embarrassing is the President of the United States reciting a massively discredited factoid. The 23-cent gender pay gap is simply the difference between the average earnings of all men and women working full-time. It does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure, or hours worked per week. When all these relevant factors are taken into consideration, the wage gap narrows to about 5 percent.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html

 

[Mook]

How you posting charts and quotes and no links

what is wrong and embarrassing is the President of the United States reciting a massively discredited factoid. The 23-cent gender pay gap is simply the difference between the average earnings of all men and women working full-time. It does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure, or hours worked per week. When all these relevant factors are taken into consideration, the wage gap narrows to about 5 percent.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html

 

[flea]

can u neg that towel head for me?

 

[SouthernBelle]

How you posting charts and quotes and no links

what is wrong and embarrassing is the President of the United States reciting a massively discredited factoid. The 23-cent gender pay gap is simply the difference between the average earnings of all men and women working full-time. It does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure, or hours worked per week. When all these relevant factors are taken into consideration, the wage gap narrows to about 5 percent.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html

Sweetie...isn't not hard to post the links. Here they are (where BOTH of those charts come from and one article is actually about debunking the pay gap myth and still end up showing that gaps exist):

New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/u...e-of-gender-not-jobs.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0

The Atlantic
http://www.theatlantic.com/business...iggest-myth-about-the-gender-wage-gap/276367/

Those acknowledge the wage gap between occupations and they BOTH show that even AFTER controlling for occupation, a gap STILL exists. The gap exist EVEN WHEN YOU COMPARE MEN AND WOMEN DOING THE SAME WORK.

A new survey from PayScale this morning finds that the wage gap nearly evaporates when you control for occupation and experience among the most common jobs, especially among less experienced workers. It is only as careers advance, they found, that men outpaced female earnings as they made their way toward the executive suite.

Are women paid less than men because they choose to be, by gravitating to lower-paying jobs like teaching and social work?

That is what some Republicans who voted down the equal pay bill this month would have you believe. “There’s a disparity not because female engineers are making less than male engineers at the same company with comparable experience,” the Republican National Committee said this month. “The disparity exists because a female social worker makes less than a male engineer.”

But a majority of the pay gap between men and women actually comes from differences within occupations, not between them — and widens in the highest-paying ones like business, law and medicine, according to data from Claudia Goldin, a Harvard University labor economist and a leading scholar on women and the economy.

“There is a belief, which is just not true, that women are just in bad occupations and if we just put them in better occupations, we would solve the gender gap problem,” Dr. Goldin said.

Rearranging women into higher-paying occupations would erase just 15 percent of the pay gap for all workers and between 30 and 35 percent for college graduates, she found. The rest has to do with something happening inside the workplace.

Take doctors and surgeons. Women earn 71 percent of men’s wages — after controlling for age, race, hours and education. Women who are financial specialists make 66 percent of what men in the same occupation earn, and women who are lawyers and judges make 82 percent.

 

[Nymbus]

brehs came in with the jokes
sistas came in with the stats

 

[SouthernBelle]

Even when compare the same jobs, education and hours worked...there is still a gap.

 

[Mr Rager]

I mean if you really dont know what your talking about....

Then you shouldnt talk about it

My mom makes around 120k she should be getting 140k - 150k based on the person that previously held the position

but i dont expect you t understand

You do realize that there are other factors that contribute to wage such as education level and previous experience right?
But we just gonna blame it on the "glass ceiling" right?

 

[Mr Rager]

fukking Coli...start off talking about gender but somehow make the discussion about race

 

[SouthernBelle]

The race wage gap exist and the gender wage gap exists. Pretending that this country is not built on systematic inequality against minorities and women is ridiculous.