JuvenileHell
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Dont see how anybody could disagree with Math in this case unless you got an LOM tshirt
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Dont see how anybody could disagree with Math in this case unless you got an LOM tshirt
JuvenileHell
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Bruh I dont even know why you bother. The way nikkas are trying to spin Hollows fukkery into something other than being him a snake is wild.
If Math ended up in a coma or God forbid dead after getting jumped the whole world would shyt on Hollow for even being in the same room as Diz.
You dont even have to be a street nikka to get where Math is coming from. This shyt could be applied to anything. If youre loyal to someone there is nothing wrong about expecting loyalty back, esp if you have stuck your neck out for said person before.
Scottie Drippin
Should Never Mention Me
Because the very root of the situation is Hollow not telling him about Dizaster.
Is that fukked up? Yes.
The only gray area is WHY didn't Hollow tell Math about Dizaster. Hollow, who knows Math better than any of us, believes he couldn't trust Math with the information because he's moved on with the drama.
Math says that's ridiculous, as all he had to do was tell him chill and nothing would have happened. But surely you can see why, even with our limited insight into Math and his life, when it comes to shyt like this, there's reason to believe that wouldn't have been the case?
EA
A Pound & A Prayer
The way Rex had his head buried in that girl's a$$hole had him looking like a Diglett 
Once the topic shifted to Hollow not telling math about Dizaster because, potentially, Hollow just might not have trusted him to not do something crazy, the entire mood shifts. Math is still completely unable to accept that people treat him in a way that reflects his past behavior. Flip is just trying to get him to admit that he's done a lot of crazy shyt and he just can't. He spins that ridiculous shyt about Michael Jordan punching more people than him, repeats the same inane metaphor about the drug dealing, starts getting outwardly hostile, wants to change the subject, refuses to let Flip speak, starts getting manipulative etc.
He treats people like idiots and plays a sincere person when it comes times to honestly take responsibility for his actions.
Take the Daylyt situation. Someone (probably Hollow) tells him where Daylyt is, he shows up with perennial goon all-star Handz and a group of other Brooklyn dudes and press Day and Flip, to the point where Flip felt like he had to tuck his chains and Day was wild nervous. Then he wants a pat on the back for NOT washing Day right there. That's his idea of a calm, no drama situation.
There's a history of people distancing themselves or not wanting to do business with Math, and as Flip pointed out, him playing the victim every time (which he again talked over him repeatedly denying until the subject changed).
Keep in mind, there's no reason to believe the wild shyt we've seen Math involved with on camera or the stuff that just made it into battle rap verses isn't just the tip of the iceberg. He comes off as very real and very sincere all the time when he's talking about not being a bad guy, but that's part of the issue. Which is why I called him a sociopath, and Flip said he's probably bi-polar or something.
But he kinda laid it out himself. That threshold for violence thing he talked about is very real. I think Math can say with all honestly that he isn't loose cannon, or hyper violent, or can't be trusted to not escalate a situation because to him, his behavior at his worst moments is not all that crazy, it's par for the course and normal as hell for him.
His issue is, he has to be able to accept that though okay for him, that shyt ain't ordinary. No regular person, regardless of their upbringing, has a laundry list of moments like this on their resume (again, this is just what we, complete strangers, know).
He has to accept why even a close friend won't tell him where someone he has problems with is, because despite how earnest he is in saying nothing would happen, he doesn't seem to be a person capable of letting nothing happen. Just as he doesn't seem capable of owning his behavior. And before someone posts an interview of him doing just that, there's always another interview or blog after that where he defends or ignores it completely.
Look at the difference in Math defending his behavior over and over again verses Flip when Math starts bringing up his past. Flip owns it and owns the repercussions IMMEDIATELY while Math can't even come close to the same. That's what makes me think there's really something there.
For instance, a shorthanded description of sociopathic behavior
Behavioral: antisocial behavior, deceitfulness, hostility, irresponsibility, manipulativeness, risk taking behaviors, aggression, impulsivity, irritability, or lack of restraint
Who does that sound like?
I dont necessarily agree hes a sociopath but yeah I agree in the sense you cant trust him to not pop off. nikka never controls his temper. even that prank video I mean maybe it was staged but he grabbed that little white nikka by the throat lmao nikka can never control himself and then he sits there like what ? me ? Also his anaolgy is way off the snitching thing is apples and oranges but even the beef shyt, hollow and him supposedly havent been talking for a while, he didnt just catch this "beef" and hollow was like nah, hollow seems in general like hes falling back from drama, even his whole 3rd round vs roc, the idea he just did this cause of math i dont think is true. math is essentially saying hes only mad cause hollow didnt tell him but i cant blame him cause he might have fukked up his money, Math is real I agree with you, he said himself a punch dont mean shyt to him cause of what hes seen and he says all the time 99 percent of the battlers arent really in the streets like that but then he acts surprised when they dont act street. like when is he just gonna get that this is a show and not real ? and dont expect nobody to be real. it is what it is, stop making excuses you could easily be at the top of this shyt if you kept your cool.
Like he was eating peanut butter 
Ronnie Lott
#49erGang
I think you missed some very key points Math was making. There's no way I could battle a dude who took part in jumping my close homie. There's no fukking way. Hollow was doing movies with Diz, making all kinds of moves and getting money with him too.
Hollow was the one with the leverage. Hollow could have easily told Diz to run that fade with Math before he agreed to battle. That's a key point that many people and you keep glossing over.
Think about it, the sheer fact that Hollow vs Diz was a surprise battle was enough to know that whole thing was to protect Diz. Hollow was in on that shyt. #LOM
Scottie Drippin
Should Never Mention Me
Diz and Hollow have been cool for a while, while Math and Hollow haven't been fukking with each other at the same level for much longer than we knew.I think you missed some very key points Math was making. There's no way I could battle a dude who took part in jumping my close homie. There's no fukking way. Hollow was doing movies with Diz, making all kinds of moves and getting money with him too.
Hollow was the one with the leverage. Hollow could have easily told Diz to run that fade with Math before he agreed to battle. That's a key point that many people and you keep glossing over.
Think about it, the sheer fact that Hollow vs Diz was a surprise battle was enough to know that whole thing was to protect Diz. Hollow was in on that shyt. #LOM
Ardamus
Unpopular Opinions About Battle Rap
Man, wtf is going on in battle rap this year? Seriously.
Prayers to Tone because I fukked with him heavy.
Damn man......
Ronnie Lott
#49erGang
What does this have to do with anything I've said in the last 2 posts?
Math actually explained it very clear. He wasnt mad at Hollow being close with diz or getting money with him. Math was mad cause Hollow didnt trust him with the info that he would battle Diz. If he tried for Diz to run that fade and it fell through Math would fall back. Like he said both of them have children he wouldnt mess up Hollows bag. I get where he coming from. In the end it just falls down on trust. Hollow shouldve trusted him. He said he still got mad love for Hollow tho so i guess its all good.
I don't defend hollow at all. He was fukked up to the fullest. I think he must have caught the Holy Ghost after setting up Day and probably got into some shyt over it and realized this street shyt ain't worth it anymore. Get money and keep it movinG. Wasn't trying to make the same mistake again...
Still, don't cross a nikka like math cuz there ain't many stand up dudes like him. Real shyt.
Still, don't cross a nikka like math cuz there ain't many stand up dudes like him. Real shyt.
So Conceited might be getting his own MTV show. That’s fire. Between that and Rain signing with MMG (I know he’s not a battler but he’s a part of the culture) people seem to be making some big moves.
ReasonableMatic
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Yoooooo this is FIRE!!!!
Until the hook came in, shyt was GAHBIDGE.
But Ross be SPITTIN tho.
Rain is low key nasty on the boards