Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)
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You must be real young to post something like this.
Yeah RD is the bro but that was kinda wild.
Ronnie Lott
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Probably not, but I can't make the assumption based on what I see posted in the booth.
Once the topic shifted to Hollow not telling math about Dizaster because, potentially, Hollow just might not have trusted him to not do something crazy, the entire mood shifts. Math is still completely unable to accept that people treat him in a way that reflects his past behavior. Flip is just trying to get him to admit that he's done a lot of crazy shyt and he just can't. He spins that ridiculous shyt about Michael Jordan punching more people than him, repeats the same inane metaphor about the drug dealing, starts getting outwardly hostile, wants to change the subject, refuses to let Flip speak, starts getting manipulative etc.
He treats people like idiots and plays a sincere person when it comes times to honestly take responsibility for his actions.
Take the Daylyt situation. Someone (probably Hollow) tells him where Daylyt is, he shows up with perennial goon all-star Handz and a group of other Brooklyn dudes and press Day and Flip, to the point where Flip felt like he had to tuck his chains and Day was wild nervous. Then he wants a pat on the back for NOT washing Day right there. That's his idea of a calm, no drama situation.
There's a history of people distancing themselves or not wanting to do business with Math, and as Flip pointed out, him playing the victim every time (which he again talked over him repeatedly denying until the subject changed).
Keep in mind, there's no reason to believe the wild shyt we've seen Math involved with on camera or the stuff that just made it into battle rap verses isn't just the tip of the iceberg. He comes off as very real and very sincere all the time when he's talking about not being a bad guy, but that's part of the issue. Which is why I called him a sociopath, and Flip said he's probably bi-polar or something.
But he kinda laid it out himself. That threshold for violence thing he talked about is very real. I think Math can say with all honestly that he isn't loose cannon, or hyper violent, or can't be trusted to not escalate a situation because to him, his behavior at his worst moments is not all that crazy, it's par for the course and normal as hell for him.
His issue is, he has to be able to accept that though okay for him, that shyt ain't ordinary. No regular person, regardless of their upbringing, has a laundry list of moments like this on their resume (again, this is just what we, complete strangers, know).
He has to accept why even a close friend won't tell him where someone he has problems with is, because despite how earnest he is in saying nothing would happen, he doesn't seem to be a person capable of letting nothing happen. Just as he doesn't seem capable of owning his behavior. And before someone posts an interview of him doing just that, there's always another interview or blog after that where he defends or ignores it completely.
Look at the difference in Math defending his behavior over and over again verses Flip when Math starts bringing up his past. Flip owns it and owns the repercussions IMMEDIATELY while Math can't even come close to the same. That's what makes me think there's really something there.
For instance, a shorthanded description of sociopathic behavior
Behavioral: antisocial behavior, deceitfulness, hostility, irresponsibility, manipulativeness, risk taking behaviors, aggression, impulsivity, irritability, or lack of restraint
Who does that sound like?
Yeah, I've been saying on here that Math can't handle a social interaction that makes him look weak in any way. He will just spin you until he can reframe the conversation how he wants it. I can't see how anyone got past the Michael Jordan thing.
I hate to keep picking at him, because I think he's really talented, and he HAS been dealt some bad breaks. But I can't put up with people like him. Hollow was sneaking around on some corny shyt, but I completely understand why he didn't trust Math, and probably wanted to cut ties. Math made it clear he won't allow Hollow to change and grow. Hollow turned 35 and decided he want to leave those types of antics behind, is there really anything wrong with that?
On a more lighthearted note, how is it's cool for y'all to come at Harlem dudes for being money grubbing, but we're not going to say anything about the lengths Brooklyn nyggas will go through just to beat someone up? Lmao nyggas will burn a L and draw up a football play just to press somebody, and you know Math is clever enough to quarterback it.
Another thing... how does Diz duck a fair one for 3 years after what he did? The only reason why he doesn't get more backlash from other battlers is because he did it to Math. The "karma" argument will come up. Same thing with what Math did to Serius. People let Math's actions slide somewhat because on some level they felt like Serius is a douche and he had it coming to him. Nevermind the fact that Math had been chasing the rematch with Serius for years. He should have been more eager to get his bars out, that is unless he had considered snuffing Serius all along.
One thing Math says that I do disagree with is that this isn’t karma because he got jumped and he didn’t jump anyone, he punched them by himself
But karma doesn’t work that way. Karma isn’t something that necessarily comes back in the same form that you put it out in the world in. If you shoot someone, your karma might not be getting shot back. Your karma might be your first born dies at birth or you lose your wife in a car accident. Or maybe not even that extreme. Celebrating someone having a failure, the karma may come back with you losing your job or maybe going broke.
So that’s the one that that Math constantly says that is just incorrect.
But karma doesn’t work that way. Karma isn’t something that necessarily comes back in the same form that you put it out in the world in. If you shoot someone, your karma might not be getting shot back. Your karma might be your first born dies at birth or you lose your wife in a car accident. Or maybe not even that extreme. Celebrating someone having a failure, the karma may come back with you losing your job or maybe going broke.
So that’s the one that that Math constantly says that is just incorrect.
I was thinking about this when I watched him answer the Bonnie/Drake question.
No way someone like him can say "Hey, just to keep it simple, Drake hollared at her, and I took the L." There is no way someone like Math would say another man took his girl.
JuvenileHell
Veteran
In anycase I think Karma is a BS concept as a whole anyway. The world def doesnt work like that.
At the beginning of the interview I could've sworn he said something to the effect of "I didn't consider it to be a real relationship".
Then he was asked how they got together, he says "see I like to help people"...
I turned it off, couldn't make it to the Drake story.
Drake smashed Math's girl and he couldn't manage the p*ssy correctly. He should have gotten her to get a luxury car out of that nicca at the very least. Your girl is going to cheat if Drake calls, you have to understand this and get into manager mode. How is Math grown and doesn't understand how to manage the p*ssy?
I had no idea that Math and some goons pressed Daylyt. I'm not surprised that it happened. I'm also not surprised that nothing happen to Day either, as it doesn't benefit either guy.
If you are a rapper with high aspirations, you have to do business in California and NY. Math is well aware of that.
I think Hollow setting up Daylyt is very key information.
There's a certain business aspect to this entire thing. Despite setting Daylyt up, they've moved past it and Hollow is obviously pretty cordial with some of the grape street nyggas as we have seen on footage. Pulling another stunt like notifying Math of Diz whereabouts would hurt his west coast relationships. It was just not an option or conducive for what Hollow is trying to do with his career.
I really have no sides in this thing. Just hope to see a battle.
If you are a rapper with high aspirations, you have to do business in California and NY. Math is well aware of that.
I think Hollow setting up Daylyt is very key information.
There's a certain business aspect to this entire thing. Despite setting Daylyt up, they've moved past it and Hollow is obviously pretty cordial with some of the grape street nyggas as we have seen on footage. Pulling another stunt like notifying Math of Diz whereabouts would hurt his west coast relationships. It was just not an option or conducive for what Hollow is trying to do with his career.
I really have no sides in this thing. Just hope to see a battle.
DontEemTry
Superstar
These young nikkas be exposin themselves on the reg
ReasonableMatic
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Holy shyt, I was WILDING yesterday 
No amount of dark liquor can justify all the shyt I did
On a Sunday at that
I'm keep it short and just take the L brehs
No amount of dark liquor can justify all the shyt I did
On a Sunday at that
I'm keep it short and just take the L brehs