Wade vs Kobe: Who's better?

[28 Gramz]

1.Wade has one ring as the man and after that was missing/barely making the playoffs in the east while Kobe was dragging Smush Parker to the playoffs in a prime Western Conference.

2.Kobe was at least a top 5 player from 01-13, Wades run was 05-10.

3.Scoring is the most important part of the game, Wade is not better at anything scoring wise than Prime Kobe besides maybe slashing to the rim because he didn't have a reliable jumper, which is why his Fg% is higher.

4.Wade has no MVPs. Those who argue he should have won in 09 even though his team didn't succeed, fair enough but then you'd have to agree the 06 MVP should have went to Kobe.

5.No NBA player/Coach/Analyst in history that saw both of them during their prime would put Wade in a discussion with Kobe (ill cashapp anybody that can prove it) most people who argue for Wade just flat out don't respect or like anything Kobe and say he's overrated even after winning back to back rings with Pau Gasol and some good role players.

6.We saw Dwayne Wade lose to Dirk and some old elbow grease veterans with a prime Lebron James and Chris Bosh, yes that was more on Bron shytting the bed but Wade would have brought that home if he's that great.

 

[UpAndComing]

You do know Kobe’s prime lasted 2000-2001 up untill 2012-2013 right? Wade dealt with too many injuries. Only with kobe do you nikkas try to rank somebody over him because he(wade) had a few years of being on that level

Yeah right


Kobe's prime was from 2004 (When Shaq left) to 2010. Playing with a Top 5 center of all time doesn't make your prime longer


Ya'll talking about Wade's injuries like Kobe didn't have an injury plagued career

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Yeah right


Kobe's prime was from 2004 (When Shaq left) to 2010. Playing with a Top 5 center of all time doesn't make your prime longer


Ya'll talking about Wade's injuries like Kobe didn't have an injury plagued career

So kobe didn’t have a prime because he was playing with a better player
So Steph isn’t in his prime cause hes playing with KD who wins all the FMVPS?
Also was Wade still not in his prime in 2011 cause he played with lebron?

Pippen and the GOAT Jordan?when was pippen prime? By your logic, pippens prime would Only be a year when Jordan retired

Magic and Kareem?

Nice try breh. Like I said Kobe prime came from 00-01 to 2013 where it ended. Wade prime lasted much shorter. I like Dwade but there is no ground in this convo. When you discuss who’s better, everything has to be taken into account, or do we only reserve that for Lebron? I could of sworn y’all use this arguement with Lebron. When it’s Kobe though, a nikka is better than him cause he had a short window where he was on your level.

 

[28 Gramz]

Yeah right


Kobe's prime was from 2004 (When Shaq left) to 2010. Playing with a Top 5 center of all time doesn't make your prime longer


Ya'll talking about Wade's injuries like Kobe didn't have an injury plagued career

01 was the start of Kobes prime and he averaged 27 6 and 5 in his 17th year

Wade was only elite for 5-6 years.

 

[UpAndComing]

So kobe didn’t have a prime because he was playing with a better player
So Steph isn’t in his prime cause hes playing with KD who wins all the FMVPS?
Also was Wade still not in his prime in 2011 cause he played with lebron?

Pippen and Jordan?when was pippen prime? By your logic, pippens prime would Only be a year when Jordan retired?

Magic and Kareem?

Nice try breh. Like I said Kobe prime came from 00-01 to 2013 where it ended. Wade prime lasted much shorter. I like Dwade but there is no ground in this convo. When you discuss who’s better, everything has to be taken into account, or do we only reserve that for Lebron?

Kobe came in the league at 17. By 2000, he was 21. No where near his prime
The dynamic is different than what you named because he started playing with a great player as soon as he was drafted

I like how you neglected to acknowledge that, nice try


Was Kyrie Irving in his prime in 2016 when he scored 40 in game 5 of the Finals and hit that shot in game 7? No, he wasn't. He just looked great alongside someone in their prime, just like Kobe. And Magic wasn't in his prime when he won that NBA Finals MVP in 1980, so I dont know why you brought that up

 

[steph_harden]

Kobe was a perimeter player

Wade was a slasher who shot closer to the basket

You gotta understand how shooting works. Ray Allen is a career 45% shooter, he was a perimeter player. Shooting 45% as a perimeter player is equivalent to a slasher shooting 50%. Even a 45% perimeter shooter serves as a threat to spread the floor.

Why do ppl lack this context?

Wade was a GREAT player. He just wasn’t as dominant as Kobe.

nikka what? Are u implying that Wade wasn’t a perimeter player? You do realize that Wade shot a higher percentage even from mid range right?

The only thing Kobe legitimately has him beat on is 3point %. And that’s not enough to make up for all the other categories.

If nikkas want to argue longevity and durability for Kobe I could understand that but the stats favor Wade

 

[Supreme365]

Wade at his very best was never as great as Kobe

Not true

 

[Supreme365]

Kobe doesn’t have a single better finals performance than 06 Wade (year 3 at that), nor does he have a better single season than 09 Wade

I say this as someone who ranks Kobe over him

But it ain’t THAT Far apart unless you’re talking about impact on basketball culture.

06 kobe was as good if not better than 09 wade

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Kobe came in the league at 17. By 2000, he was 21. No where near his prime

The fukk does even make sense? So because he was 22(I’m talking the 2000-2001 season) he wasn’t an elite player? Oh so by that logic. Lebron wasn’t elite in 2006 when he was 22. Derrick Rose MVP meant nothing cause he was 22. DWade himself wasn’t elite in the 2004-2005 season cause he was 22/23


In 2000-2001. Kobe averaged 28/5/5/1.7

Against the spurs in those playoffs,he averaged 33/7/7/1.5

Aganist SAC he averaged 35/9/4/1.3

Against POR he averaged 25/4/7/2.3

Elite numbers nikka. Don’t tell me about Shaq either. Cause in that case Jordan won all those rings by himself and Scottie meant nothing. D-wades 10-11 season has to be erased cause he played with Lebron

Kobe came in the league at 17. By 2000, he was 21. No where near his prime

The dynamic is different than what you named because he started playing with a great player as soon as he was drafted[/QUOTE]


Nikka what?you trying to be a comedian? Magic was drafted to arguably the greatest C of all time


Pippen was drafted to a team with the GOAT


Tony Parker and Manu came to a team with Duncan


Find a better narrative breh cause this ain’t working out

Was Kyrie Irving in his prime in 2016 when he scored 40

Yes you dikkhead. Being by yourself doesn’t start your prime. That’s just a silly narrative you started to knocked some years off Kobe’s longevity.

 

[Controversy]

Uh...no...

Shooting 45 percent from the field..means you shot 45 percent from the field...

Now if you wanna factor in 3 point shooting, you'll use eFG...which takes into account the volume and distance of 3 point shots...

Ray Allen's eFG is higher than Kobe's and Wade's eFG is higher than Kobe's

Kobe just had shyt shot selection and Wade was even more dominate than Kobe because Wade was actually a good defensive player...

While Kobe only played defense like for the first 5 years of his career and then skated by on reputation...

Wade had 3 seasons of PER at 28 or above..

Kobe has one...

Wade was simply a more efficient and more productive player than Kobe throughout his career...



Not true....plenty of people think Wade was a better player than Kobe

WADE Career Highs:
30.2 pts
6.4 rebs
7.5 assists
2.2 steals
1.1 threes
80.7% FT

Kobe in one season (2002-03):
30.0 pts
6.9 rebs
5.9 assists
2.2 steals
1.5 threes
84.3% FT


You can’t be serious

 

[Controversy]

You spread out Kobe’s strengths (Instead of just saying he’s a better shooter, you say he’s but try to consolidate Wade’s.

Wade was a better slasher, finisher at the rim, better passer, a more dynamic playmaker, pick and roll player, has better vision, a better off-ball defender, better shot-blocker, weakside defender, and more athletic.

I think Kobe is better overall player but you ain’t slick

Skill for skill, Kobe is better

But I won’t sleep on Wade, he’s top 20-25 player all time

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Yeah right


Kobe's prime was from 2004 (When Shaq left) to 2010. Playing with a Top 5 center of all time doesn't make your prime longer


Ya'll talking about Wade's injuries like Kobe didn't have an injury plagued career

I wouldn’t quite call him injury plagued, but he missed a good amount of games from 1999-2000 through 2004-05. Missed an average of 11 games per year in that span. He was pretty durable after that until the Achilles tear. He missed 17-18 total games from 2005-06 up until he ruptured it in 2013.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

nikka what? Are u implying that Wade wasn’t a perimeter player? You do realize that Wade shot a higher percentage even from mid range right?

The only thing Kobe legitimately has him beat on is 3point %. And that’s not enough to make up for all the other categories.

If nikkas want to argue longevity and durability for Kobe I could understand that but the stats favor Wade

Which stats though? Career average for career average, Kobe has more points(including playoffs), more rebounds, better 3pt & free throws. Wade has better AST/steals blocks & FG%

Total stats

Kobe has more points

Kobe has more rebounds

Kobe has more assists.

Kobe has more steals

Wade has more blocks

Kobe Bryant vs. Dwyane Wade Comparison


Best seasons

Kobe has more points, rebounds. Wade has more steals/blocks. They are both tied at Steals

To be fair to wade his playoffs is where he is highest over kobe. Wade averaged more rebounds assists steals and blocks, FG and 3pt

Overall.
Kobe has more playoff points, rebounds, assists, and steals. Wade more blocks

 

[Controversy]

nikka what? Are u implying that Wade wasn’t a perimeter player? You do realize that Wade shot a higher percentage even from mid range right?

The only thing Kobe legitimately has him beat on is 3point %. And that’s not enough to make up for all the other categories.

If nikkas want to argue longevity and durability for Kobe I could understand that but the stats favor Wade

I’m willing to go out on a limb and say Kobe shot more long reps than any player in history

Kobe was a perimeter player w/ a mean post game & mid-range and honestly he didn’t use those aspects of his game enough

Wade was a combo G who played more like a SF

I don’t think you hooped competitively. A guy who mainly takes shot behind the FT line shooting 45% is just as effective as a slasher who shoots 50%. Guys shoot a higher % closer to the basket. Guys who can hit perimeter shots spread the floor for post players and slashers.

45% from Ray and 45% from Kob served the same purpose, keep the def honest. That’s why a Shaq, Gasol & Bynum were able to thrive w/ him.

 

[UpAndComing]

The fukk does even make sense? So because he was 22(I’m talking the 2000-2001 season) he wasn’t an elite player? Oh so by that logic. Lebron wasn’t elite in 2006 when he was 22. Derrick Rose MVP meant nothing cause he was 22. DWade himself wasn’t elite in the 2004-2005 season cause he was 22/23


In 2000-2001. Kobe averaged 28/5/5/1.7

Against the spurs in those playoffs,he averaged 33/7/7/1.5

Aganist SAC he averaged 35/9/4/1.3

Against POR he averaged 25/4/7/2.3

Elite numbers nikka. Don’t tell me about Shaq either. Cause in that case Jordan won all those rings by himself and Scottie meant nothing. D-wades 10-11 season has to be erased cause he played with Lebron


The dynamic is different than what you named because he started playing with a great player as soon as he was drafted

Nikka what?you trying to be a comedian? Magic was drafted to arguably the greatest C of all time


Pippen was drafted to a team with the GOAT


Tony Parker and Manu came to a team with Duncan


Find a better narrative breh cause this ain’t working out





Yes you dikkhead. Being by yourself doesn’t start your prime. That’s just a silly narrative you started to knocked some years off Kobe’s longevity.[/QUOTE]



Calm down emotional Kobe stan. When you're ready to have an un emotional conversation let me know