10-year-old upset over VR headset fatally shoots his mother 44 year old Quiana Mann; charged as an adult

[Noriega]

Are you comparing a 14 year old to a mentally retarded 10 year old?

Where in the article does it say the boy was mentally delayed ?


The kid knew what he was doing, almost premeditated if you ask me

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

This turn the other cheek is how serial killers get started. This boy needs to be in lifetime custody, whether it’s prison or a mental institution, whatever, but he needs to be locked up.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

So they were aware the child has rage issues and voices in his head to the point you install camera's to watch him and still kept a gun accessible to him in home? Sounds like this wasn't gonna end any other way. At least he didn't go the mass shooter route.

Guns.

Guns in the home are several times more likely to kill a resident of the home than to kill a stranger/intruder.

Homicide rates in homes with guns are 1.5-2.0 times higher than homicide rates in nearby homes with the same homeowner demographic. They've broken it down and found there's no difference is stranger-caused homicides in such homes, but in-family homicides account for the rise. Suicide rates in homes with guns are 2.0 to 3.0 times higher in homes with guns than suicide rates in similar homes without guns.


Especially with that kid's issues, it was fukking idiocy for there to be a gun in the home.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Something is off in this whole situation though, the article makes them appear like a legit murderous schizophrenic psychopath with no remorse. But then again, you can’t trust the media. This is supposed to be a 10 year old

Children can be psychopaths too, I've read cases even of 5-year-olds who were just as bad as this kid. It can be treated but it takes some intense work.

That’s not a child, that's a demon. Kids like him make me wonder if some people are just born evil. They only thing that makes me show remorse is, I know some of these things get passed down genetically. A lot of people don’t understand how we are still affected by things that went on doing slavery

This little fukk was a demon since birth. At 4 years old he would swing the puppy by its tail to hurt it?

Edit: @Assata Shakur said it before I could

Get that demon out of here, it’s already too late for his ass

No 10-year-old is a "demon", get out of here with that bullshyt. He's a kid with issues who needed to be in a protected environment where he couldn't hurt others until he got help.

When Your Child Is a Psychopath

The condition has long been considered untreatable. Experts can spot it in a child as young as 3 or 4. But a new clinical approach offers hope.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[DamienWayne]

Where in the article does it say the boy was mentally delayed ?


The kid knew what he was doing, almost premeditated if you ask me

I don't think a 10 year old can premeditate anything

 

[B86]

Children can be psychopaths too, I've read cases even of 5-year-olds who were just as bad as this kid. It can be treated but it takes some intense work.








No 10-year-old is a "demon", get out of here with that bullshyt. He's a kid with issues who needed to be in a protected environment where he couldn't hurt others until he got help.

When Your Child Is a Psychopath

The condition has long been considered untreatable. Experts can spot it in a child as young as 3 or 4. But a new clinical approach offers hope.

www.theatlantic.com

I said he’s a fukkin demon. You get out of here with your excuse making ass. fukk that little nikka and his mental problems…

 

[Professor Emeritus]

If he's a legit psychopath, dude was a born killer and there's no amount of rehabilitation that can change it.

If you aren't experienced in mental illness issues, then don't comment on it with such certainty. There are very serious treatments in place for psychopathy that have produced positive results. Claiming that nothing can be done for psychopaths is pure pop psychology.

I don't believe that people are inherently "evil" that is an archaic concept that undermines generational trauma, brain chemistry, outside influences, love at home etc etc etc

To pull the receipts on this kid, we need to know who exactly was or wasn't in his life, we need a scan of his brain, we need to see the internet search history, we need to interview everyone who he interacted with at school and all of his family members. You will need a trained professional who deals with violent children to spend serious time with him.

Ultimately, to have any chance at reintegration he would need extensive therapy and counseling. Maybe he is mentally incapable of empathy but has enough cognitive ability to "appear" normal. This seems like an extremely complicated issue that we're all here oversimplifying

Thank you for being the voice of reason.

This is TLR, people who have never read a single essay on these issues, much less a book, much less taken a class, much less have a degree or any personal experience, still feel fine speaking as if they're experts and telling everyone else to fukk off.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This turn the other cheek is how serial killers get started.

It's actually the exact opposite, we've posted the studies in here before that the vast majority of serial killers came from extremely abusive backgrounds.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I said he’s a fukkin demon. You get out of here with your excuse making ass. fukk that little nikka and his mental problems…

Please, try and have a conversation like you're grown up. What do you even mean by "he's a demon"? That's not a scientific concept and it's not a Christian concept, it sounds to me like an ignorant concept.

What are you gonna call him next, a superpredator?

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

It's actually the exact opposite, we've posted the studies in here before that the vast majority of serial killers came from extremely abusive backgrounds.

And when they start showing disturbing behavior, it’s ignored. Clearly signs were ignored prior to this, or at minimum,
unable to be fully addressed, giving him a slap on the wrist because of his age just enables him to continue down a destructive path. He clearly needs stronger intervention and does not need to be in and out of a prison system in 10 years, he’ll come out worse

 

[murksiderock]

You full of shyt. What would be the appropriate punishment then? Answer me that without any deflections or meaningless platitudes.

I bet none of y'all nikkas would want that demonic boy in your house but y'all willing to let him loose on the rest of society because y'all won't cross paths with him. Dweebs.

You doing alot of rambling. No one here has an obligation to this kid, that's the local government of where he's from (Milwaukee's) job, since apparently the family, whether voluntary or nor, failed their obligation to him...

There needs to be extensive screening on this kid's mental state, which shouldn't be rushed. This also means the deepest dive into what home was really like, the influences and adults who were around him, all of that. At the same time he should still be educated---->he's 10. Locking him up in a regular juvie, with downright mediocre rehabilitation and education prospects, would be "insane". With kids older and bigger and more mature and developed than him, how would this make sense?

Put him in a crazy house throughout the entire process it takes to determine his mental capacity, while limiting (not eliminating) his interaction with others, and assigning tutors or age-appropriate instruction with him several times a week...

Monitor his entire progress but under no circumstances should he be jailed beyond 21, that's 11 years there. If there is significant progress in his mental state, his behavior, his ability to learn at age level, let him out between 15 to 18, that's 5 to 8 years put away, and release him to state custody (halfway houses and shyt like that) if the family doesn't want him, and then he has to abide by all the rules and structures parolees have to...

I wouldn't transition him into a regular juvie until he's 15, if I have to...

So you're locking him up a minimum of 5, maximum of 11 years, getting him extensive therapy, testing, counseling, while also providing age-level education services. If he reoffends, it's over, and it would be made clear to him that a kid who murdered his mother can't do anything wrong again or the full extent of the law applies to him...

I don't think anyone under 18 deserves adult penalties, but it's unconscionable to me to me that yall think a 10-year old does...

Locking him up and throwing away the key is not the fix...

If he was my close kin (brother, son, cousin), I wouldn't want him with me anytime soon, but I'd have the same suggestions I had earlier, and I'd want to maintain a semblance of contact (periodical letters or visits) t9 check on his development with my own eyes. Kids have to know they are loved and cared for, if his family washes their hands with him they are further contributing to his delinquency...

10 year old black boys can’t be evil? I was a ten year old black boy once and I can swear that a few of my fellow black male classmates and neighbors were simply evil bad kids not just insane.

Maybe they can be, but I wouldn't put this on him without doing the work first. No one is born bad...

This turn the other cheek is how serial killers get started. This boy needs to be in lifetime custody, whether it’s prison or a mental institution, whatever, but he needs to be locked up.

That turn the other cheek shyt doesn't start with the law, it started at home. The amount of passes he got for his behavior at home is probably numerous, we know that many of US don't do the work required for children who need more accountable parenting. Lifetime custody wouldn't help shyt with this boy...

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

You doing alot of rambling. No one here has an obligation to this kid, that's the local government of where he's from (Milwaukee's) job, since apparently the family, whether voluntary or nor, failed their obligation to him...

There needs to be extensive screening on this kid's mental state, which shouldn't be rushed. This also means the deepest dive into what home was really like, the influences and adults who were around him, all of that. At the same time he should still be educated---->he's 10. Locking him up in a regular juvie, with downright mediocre rehabilitation and education prospects, would be "insane". With kids older and bigger and more mature and developed than him, how would this make sense?

Put him in a crazy house throughout the entire process it takes to determine his mental capacity, while limiting (not eliminating) his interaction with others, and assigning tutors or age-appropriate instruction with him several times a week...

Monitor his entire progress but under no circumstances should he be jailed beyond 21, that's 11 years there. If there is significant progress in his mental state, his behavior, his ability to learn at age level, let him out between 15 to 18, that's 5 to 8 years put away, and release him to state custody (halfway houses and shyt like that) if the family doesn't want him, and then he has to abide by all the rules and structures parolees have to...

I wouldn't transition him into a regular juvie until he's 15, if I have to...

So you're locking him up a minimum of 5, maximum of 11 years, getting him extensive therapy, testing, counseling, while also providing age-level education services. If he reoffends, it's over, and it would be made clear to him that a kid who murdered his mother can't do anything wrong again or the full extent of the law applies to him...

I don't think anyone under 18 deserves adult penalties, but it's unconscionable to me to me that yall think a 10-year old does...

Locking him up and throwing away the key is not the fix...

If he was my close kin (brother, son, cousin), I wouldn't want him with me anytime soon, but I'd have the same suggestions I had earlier, and I'd want to maintain a semblance of contact (periodical letters or visits) t9 check on his development with my own eyes. Kids have to know they are loved and cared for, if his family washes their hands with him they are further contributing to his delinquency...



Maybe they can be, but I wouldn't put this on him without doing the work first. No one is born bad...



That turn the other cheek shyt doesn't start with the law, it started at home. The amount of passes he got for his behavior at home is probably numerous, we know that many of US don't do the work required for children who need more accountable parenting. Lifetime custody wouldn't help shyt with this boy...

Lifetime custody is about keeping others safe from him. We don’t have public systems built on helping people so that’s a moot point.

 

[spliz]

First, I assume it wasnt your mom or dad that died.

Secondly, Im sure if it was your mom who died in your house (lets say by natural cause), you wouldnt go in her purse and take her money to go buy a PS5 or whatever in that moment. Would you?

That's because he has no regard for life and death. But I have a 7 year old son who DEFINITELY understand the concept of life and death. If something happened to either of us it would break him. And I def understood life and death at that age as well.

 

[L. Deezy]

That's because he has no regard for life and death. But I have a 7 year old son who DEFINITELY understand the concept of life and death. If something happened to either of us it would break him. And I def understood life and death at that age as well.

I had to go back and look at my initial comment. I didnt say kids cant understand life of death at that age. Tthey can for sure!

I said that "he" has no concept of the magnitude of death obviously by his subsequent actions after he did it.

 

[murksiderock]

Lifetime custody is about keeping others safe from him. We don’t have public systems built on helping people so that’s a moot point.

But we should, and that's part of the problem here. You don't have to have one or the other, you can have both---->putting him away for 5-11 years while also counseling and educating him helps both he and the public...