10-year-old upset over VR headset fatally shoots his mother 44 year old Quiana Mann; charged as an adult

[dora_da_destroyer]

But we should, and that's part of the problem here. You don't have to have one or the other, you can have both---->putting him away for 5-11 years while also counseling and educating him helps both he and the public...

We should have both but we don’t, so breh needs to be off the street. If we had both I’d agree with you.

 

[spliz]

This turn the other cheek is how serial killers get started. This boy needs to be in lifetime custody, whether it’s prison or a mental institution, whatever, but he needs to be locked up.

Yup. I don't think jail but a psychiatric institution is best.

 

[B86]

Please, try and have a conversation like you're grown up. What do you even mean by "he's a demon"? That's not a scientific concept and it's not a Christian concept, it sounds to me like an ignorant concept.

What are you gonna call him next, a superpredator?

You sound to me like a smart ass that knows what everybody is saying but you want to go against the grain.

If a demon isn’t a Christian concept then you need to go back and read a bible…

 

[Family Man]

Lifetime custody is about keeping others safe from him. We don’t have public systems built on helping people so that’s a moot point.

Imma give you some rep for reading that dissertation.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

And when they start showing disturbing behavior, it’s ignored. Clearly signs were ignored prior to this, or at minimum,
unable to be fully addressed, giving him a slap on the wrist because of his age just enables him to continue down a destructive path.

First off, none of that sounds like "turn the other cheek", which you claimed is what creates serial killers.


Second, what are you basing all of these claims on? The article I linked stated that there are two primary pathways to child psychopaths. One is the result of abuse - the majority are kids who are severely beaten and emotionally neglected as children. The other path is apparently genetic and occurs without abuse, but punishment makes literally no difference to them. It explicitly says in the article that their behavior isn't impacted by punishment at all. Therefore either way, withholding punishment from a kid is never going to create a psychopath.

And you say, "signs were ignored or unable to be fully addressed", but yeah, that happens all the time. The first case study in the article is about a little girl who showed clear symptoms even worse than this kid for 4 years before she was diagnosed. Her parents appear to be a caring, conscientious middle-class family who was completely on top of everything, who saw the warning signs, who took her to psychologist after psychologist, and it still took nearly FOUR YEARS for her to be diagnosed without any of the interventions before then helping at all. And that's a worst-case behavior girl in a best-case family situation. The average poor or working-class single mother doesn't understand child psychology or know how to navigate the systems to get help in the same way, or maybe she did try to get help but he was misdiagnosed. There's no justification for claiming that she just tried to "turn the other cheek."

The fact that she had a gun in the home makes the idea that she was some sort of "turn the other cheek" practitioner pretty unlikely. And THAT mistake, having the gun in a home with a child who clearly has some issues going on, is by far the most obvious mistake in the entire sad episode.

 

[BunchePark]

he going straight to the crazy house

 

[Professor Emeritus]

If a demon isn’t a Christian concept then you need to go back and read a bible…

HAVING a demon is a Christian concept. BEING a demon is not. In the Bible it clearly says that we are not allowed to judge others, and calling someone a demon is the worst judgment you can put on someone. When Jesus or his disciples met someone who had a demon, they had compassion on them and healed them, they didn't give up on them and say to lock 'em up and throw away the key.

I don't think the kid "has a demon", I think has the young-age warning signs of callous/unemotional disorders precursor to psychopathy. He needs to be put somewhere where he can't hurt anyone and get treatment, not whatever you're offering.

 

[Luke Cage]

RIP to his mother. Seems she was forgotten admist all this compassion for her killer.

 

[B86]

HAVING a demon is a Christian concept. BEING a demon is not. In the Bible it clearly says that we are not allowed to judge others, and calling someone a demon is the worst judgment you can put on someone. When Jesus or his disciples met someone who had a demon, they had compassion on them and healed them, they didn't give up on them and say to lock 'em up and throw away the key.

I don't think the kid "has a demon", I think has the young-age warning signs of callous/unemotional disorders precursor to psychopathy. He needs to be put somewhere where he can't hurt anyone and get treatment, not whatever you're offering.

I think the kid “IS” a demon…so there you have it

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Imma give you some rep for reading that dissertation.

i didn't, just his response to me which was at the bottom

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

 

[Don De Dieu]

Milwaukee is a fukked up city that often gets overlooked cuz it’s so close to Chicago
@Don De Dieu

Yeah, shyt here gets slept on because of the proximity. A lot of the fukked up things that go on in the city have been decades in the making.

Not much surprises me anymore, but this case is pretty sad.

 

[Son Goku]

Likely why young breh crazy, ex or baby daddy, abused or touched on him.

Im sorry but its

for young breh

The most prolific SKs wouldn't kill they moms. Young breh did it with no hesi.

Can't co-sign or comment on that, other than it's plenty of folks that were abused and they didn't blow a whole in Mom Dukes's head either.


AFAIK, sexual abuse doesn't make you abuse animals at a young age or hear multiple imaginary voices either. I might buy that for a dollar if dude was harming himself, not dogs and others.

Reading through this story like

The only one that can save him is Lord Jesus. Let's send him on his way and keep it all the way moving.

 

[Son Goku]

The most outrageous thing in all this is charging a TEN year old as an adult. The lack of charity for a clearly troubled child is shocking.

Children need a lot of love, support and encouragement. The ones with mental illnesses need it even moreso. It's a whole lot of two parent households struggling and still doing their best to give their kid a decent shot at life. I can't even imagine how much more difficult it would be for a single parent.

Tragic situation... feel bad for this child. Never stood a chance. RIP to him and his mother.

RIP to him? That little nikka ain't dead, and his moms is only because of him.

 

[Son Goku]

10 year old boy....with a 26 year old sister? The mom was 44, so it adds up but still.

Not sure how I feel about this. If he's a legit psychopath, dude was a born killer and there's no amount of rehabilitation that can change it.

OTOH, he's Black.

Not sure a white kid gets the same treatment.

OTOH his victim was black too. Y'all really hate black women. ()

What a white kid would get for killing their white parent is irrelevant to what's going on ITT.

He's black-black that means his mom was black. He killed her, which means he's a black male that kills black women, thus making him a c00n. He's no different than the 18 year-old gang member who goes out and caps a black lady during initiation, except the gang member doesn't hop on your Amazon account, go to checkout and click next-day shipping after they murk you.



I didn't always like or get along with my moms like that but I never planned to kill her, let alone actually go through and do it. This shyt wasn't accidental, it was a deliberately planned murder. The gun case/keys, the camera, all that. That's not indicative of mental illness, that indicative of premeditated murder, plain and simple.



And I bet folding money all the folks in here talmbout "rehabilitation" and "help" won't invite his evil ass to the cookout when he turns 18. Y'all wouldn't want him rooming with your kid in college or taking your daughters out on a date, so miss me with all that bullshyt like he can somehow come back from all this and be normal.