100% Ginuwine is possibly the greatest modern R&B album ever after My Life

[satam55]

I prefer it to The Bachelor for sure.

The Bachelor was better IMO.

The Bachelor was cold, but IMO Timb and G stepped their game up crazy for the second trip

The Bachelor didn’t do a lot for me aside from like 3 songs...

I also agree with the following quote from a critic on AllMusic 100% Ginuwine being stronger than The Bachelor musically:

This. I prefer "100% Ginuwine" over "The Bachelor" because it feels like a more polished album with more single-potential album cuts while "The Bachelor" feels more raw.


@stomachlines What you think?

 

[I love Latina women]

Timbaland surpassed Devante in 1996. I respect Devante and the work that he put in. He gets respect for mentoring Tim and Da Bassment, but that's where it stops.

Tim came out in '96 and changed the game with One In A Million and The Bachelor. From there, Missy and Timbaland & Magoo had successful albums. Then you had Tim blowing up Nicole Wray with "Make It Hot". Total and SWV had hits produced by Tim. Janet Jackson, Babyface, and Usher had him lacing remixes. He became one of Jay Z's go to producers. Missy and Ginuwine both had successful sophomore albums helmed by Timbaland. Aaliyah had another huge Timbo banger with "Are You That Somebody". Tim did all this in like 3-3.5 years. Nearly every Bassment member blew up with Tim where they were stagnant with Devante.

I could never support a Devante>>>>>>> Timbaland argument because Tim did more in 3.5 year span than Devante. Then considering Tim successfully producing artists in other genres for like two decades makes the gap between them wider. The student surpassed the teacher. That's not a shot at Devante, because that's the aspiration of any good teacher.

Honestly, I still wonder what DeVante's sound is when I really think about. Cause so much of the 1st album was DeVante along with Al. B Sure.
Al. B Sure helped Jodeci out a good deal on the 1st album.
By the time they was working on the 2nd joint, Timb/Missy and a slew of others was already around their camp. Timb did some work on the 2nd album too.
The 3rd album is so damn Timbaland it ain't even funny.
I really think the more I think about it, DeVante's style is really more so the New Jack Swing shyt on the 1st album. Lord knows he's great on the keys tho.
I know he plays a few instruments. shyt, the nikka taught himself how to play the guitar.
I just think Timbaland did a lot more work than he got credit for.
U can hear Timb's influence on Diary of A Mad Band and on The Show, The Afterparty and The Hotel.

 

[I love Latina women]

This. I prefer "100% Ginuwine" over "The Bachelor" because it feels like a more polished album with more single-potential album cuts while "The Bachelor" feels more raw.


@stomachlines What you think?

I like both albums but The Bachelor is my shyt.

 

[I love Latina women]

The main difference between DeVante and Timb is the keys, various instruments, sampled drums and samples.

DeVante shyt sounds like R&B whereas Timb's shyt sounds Hip Hop with some form a melody backing the heavy drums. D's solo shyt sounds more like live instrumentation when there's no Timbaland influence or work on there.

Like like to this; this ain't no Timbaland shyt right here. Cause there's no Hip Hop element to it. This is R&B at it's grass roots


Then listen to this. This is Hip Hop when a R&B singer singing over a beat (DeVante did eat pretty well from Timb's influence for a quick minute tho)

 

[satam55]

Timbaland surpassed Devante in 1996. I respect Devante and the work that he put in. He gets respect for mentoring Tim and Da Bassment, but that's where it stops.

Tim came out in '96 and changed the game with One In A Million and The Bachelor. From there, Missy and Timbaland & Magoo had successful albums. Then you had Tim blowing up Nicole Wray with "Make It Hot". Total and SWV had hits produced by Tim. Janet Jackson, Babyface, and Usher had him lacing remixes. He became one of Jay Z's go to producers. Missy and Ginuwine both had successful sophomore albums helmed by Timbaland. Aaliyah had another huge Timbo banger with "Are You That Somebody". Tim did all this in like 3-3.5 years. Nearly every Bassment member blew up with Tim where they were stagnant with Devante.

I could never support a Devante>>>>>>> Timbaland argument because Tim did more in 3.5 year span than Devante. Then considering Tim successfully producing artists in other genres for like two decades makes the gap between them wider. The student surpassed the teacher. That's not a shot at Devante, because that's the aspiration of any good teacher.

Honestly, I still wonder what DeVante's sound is when I really think about. Cause so much of the 1st album was DeVante along with Al. B Sure.
Al. B Sure helped Jodeci out a good deal on the 1st album.
By the time they was working on the 2nd joint, Timb/Missy and a slew of others was already around their camp. Timb did some work on the 2nd album too.
The 3rd album is so damn Timbaland it ain't even funny.
I really think the more I think about it, DeVante's style is really more so the New Jack Swing shyt on the 1st album. Lord knows he's great on the keys tho.
I know he plays a few instruments. shyt, the nikka taught himself how to play the guitar.
I just think Timbaland did a lot more work than he got credit for.
U can hear Timb's influence on Diary of A Mad Band and on The Show, The Afterparty and The Hotel.

Yep. That 3rd single on the 2nd Jodeci album, "What About Us", SOUNDS EXACTLY like a Timbaland-produced track from the late 90's:

 

[I love Latina women]

Yep. That 3rd single on the 2nd Jodeci album, "What About Us", SOUNDS EXACTLY like a Timbaland-produced track from the late 90's:

Yeah. Now don't get me wrong, Timbaland learned A LOT from DeVante. But the style that Timbaland came along with while in his camp, DeVante benefited from.
But when u think about how DeVante was really only in the game from like 91' to 95' with the exception of scattered work here and there post 96', he really didn't leave much for us to sneeze at as his work as a producer. I'm talking about quantity because again, by the time that 2nd album rolled out, Timb had been in that camp and that sound is nothing like DeVante sounded like the 1st album and the 1st album he had a helping hand with Al. B Sure.

See, DeVante comes from that Al. B Sure, Guy, Teddy Riley and even further back MJ and Prince era of music. His approach to music wasn't really Hip Hop.
It was the Gospel 1st, then R&B from the 70's and 80's. But Teddy Riley along w/ Prince and MJ and Babyface were huge influences for him. He's from that cloth.

 

[oO J Smooth Oo]

bachelor>

 

[tuckgod]

Timb definitely did this joint.

Yep. That 3rd single on the 2nd Jodeci album, "What About Us", SOUNDS EXACTLY like a Timbaland-produced track from the late 90's:

 

[flo]

Don't get me wrong...100% had more hits, but THE BACHELOR sonically is just superior from an R&B sense >>>>>>

This should've been a bigger hit

 

[Waterproof]

Yep. That 3rd single on the 2nd Jodeci album, "What About Us", SOUNDS EXACTLY like a Timbaland-produced track from the late 90's:

Y'all is straight crazy up in here, that's a Timb beat

Timb wasn't even polished as a producer, that's all Devante Swing

Now here's the same song produced by Timbaland.


Those two joints sound nothing alike..

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves

Timb did not do Dairy

 

[Waterproof]

Y'all talk about Tim gave Devante his sound, y'all really don't know shyt about music, it comes from a fan boy perspective...

You know why Bachelor is loved and bangs

Because that album was Devante Influenced, Timbaland did his best Devante Swing impersonation on Bachelor, from the writing, song singing style the beats all that was Devante Swing style. Even Ginuwine states that.

 

[tuckgod]

Timbaland surpassed Devante in 1996. I respect Devante and the work that he put in. He gets respect for mentoring Tim and Da Bassment, but that's where it stops.

Tim came out in '96 and changed the game with One In A Million and The Bachelor. From there, Missy and Timbaland & Magoo had successful albums. Then you had Tim blowing up Nicole Wray with "Make It Hot". Total and SWV had hits produced by Tim. Janet Jackson, Babyface, and Usher had him lacing remixes. He became one of Jay Z's go to producers. Missy and Ginuwine both had successful sophomore albums helmed by Timbaland. Aaliyah had another huge Timbo banger with "Are You That Somebody". Tim did all this in like 3-3.5 years. Nearly every Bassment member blew up with Tim where they were stagnant with Devante.

I could never support a Devante>>>>>>> Timbaland argument because Tim did more in 3.5 year span than Devante. Then considering Tim successfully producing artists in other genres for like two decades makes the gap between them wider. The student surpassed the teacher. That's not a shot at Devante, because that's the aspiration of any good teacher.

*High quality posting*

 

[tuckgod]

Y'all talk about Tim gave Devante his sound, y'all really don't know shyt about music, it comes from a fan boy perspective...

 

[NigerianDonDada]

Timbo brought in the Flash sample

should of made 4:18 a real song

 

[NigerianDonDada]

still remember when this album dropped always fukked with it.