[12/28] Monday Night Raw Thread: Return of the Mack

[Malcolm Joseph]

Who cares what the build is....a worker is a worker. Becky has too many 30 minute 4 star matches to be viewed in this weak Diva oriented viewed capacity. Nikki Bella may need endless practice and a build but Rebecca Knox? Yeah right

Yea, between Bex and Sasha, there should be much more chemistry then displayed tonight. I see apathy in Sasha when she is wrestling these days, neither are probably totally invested in what they are doing at the moment.

At first they were trying to grab the reigns and see what they could do with the in-place Divas' booking, but I think they are getting to the point where they are losing a little hope (understandable). I just pray that Wrestlemania season gets them feuds they can sink their teeth into.

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

excuses on excuses on excuses

 

[Spyro]

Fukk man, was that one of the shyttest raw's in recent memory or what? Terrible, the whole 3 hours was terrible

Also, the WWE Champion and future of the company getting Daniel Bryan and CM punk chants during his promo... yeah WWE's in a good place

 

[Skyjacker]

Yea, between Bex and Sasha, there should be much more chemistry then displayed tonight. I see apathy in Sasha when she is wrestling these days, neither are probably totally invested in what they are doing at the moment.

At first they were trying to grab the reigns and see what they could do with the in-place Divas' booking, but I think they are getting to the point where they are losing a little hope (understandable). I just pray that Wrestlemania season gets them feuds they can sink their teeth into.

It's not so much chemistry, it fully illustrates the problem with the "WWE style". Their standard match format that they use favours ones who wrestles hoss or power styles and works against more technical, chain and submission styles. They need to use a separate match format that they can work with the more scientific wrestling styles.

 

[The Rainmaker]

What a bunch of marks.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/12/29/vince-mcmahon-arrest-wwe-nypd/

Vince McMahon triggered a bunch of calls to the NYPD after he appeared to get arrested Monday night on "Monday Night Raw."

Cops began fielding calls after some really bad acting, where Vince stepped in to protect his daughter from some rent-a-cops. Things got heated at Barclays Center in Brooklyn. Vince got aggressive and the cops hooked him up and read him his Miranda rights.

It seemed real enough for viewers to call police ... presumably to either express their displeasure or lobby to have the book thrown at him.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

That WWE "main event style" is so ass when you have your entire roster doing it. Sucks even more when there's no drama at all.

Austin/Rock/HHH wrestled that style in multiple matches, yet was varied enough to where it wasn't stale, on top of having the Hardcore division and tag division doing things that were a major contrast. That Becky/Sasha match was bland and bad, and there was no difference between that match and 99/100 of the times Orton/Cena faced each other.

 

[Red Omega]

That was a hell of a seg between cena and adr, probably best thing since he's been gone. Hate if you want but that man gets it.

The way he flipped the shirt being thrown back at him was dope imo too.

 

[Spyro]

That WWE "main event style" is so ass when you have your entire roster doing it. Sucks even more when there's no drama at all.

Austin/Rock/HHH wrestled that style in multiple matches, yet was varied enough to where it wasn't stale, on top of having the Hardcore division and tag division doing things that were a major contrast. That Becky/Sasha match was bland and bad, and there was no difference between that match and 99/100 of the times Orton/Cena faced each other.

Yep, the whole show just sucks. I keep reading people saying the Raw is pretty good, not too bad, decent, and I'm just sat here like

Watch some classic attitude era Raw's and watch 2015, the difference is and

Shyt storylines, shyt promos, shyt matches, same old shyt, same Cena shyt for 11 years, Reigns is boring, comms are shyt, crowds are shyt, the damn ring ropes and set design is shyt, the whole show is bad. Yet I still watch every week cause I have some free time Joke's on me really

Remember when Vince opened the AE and said "We are not going to insult our audience's intelligence, not have the classic good guy vs bad guy anymore", well fukk you Vince you lying SOB

 

[Spyro]

That was a hell of a seg between cena and adr, probably best thing since he's been gone. Hate if you want but that man gets it.

The way he flipped the shirt being thrown back at him was dope imo too.

It was just as bad as the Sheamus/Reigns tater tots shyt, 2 guys standing 20 feet away from each other talking trash for 10 minutes until they finally have their shyt match

 

[mannyrs13]

The acting in that first segment was

 

[DaylitoJames]

Rewatching the opening segment I'm laughing at how Vince grabbed that police man like he wanted to grab Bob Costas years ago

 

[DaylitoJames]

This is me remembering Wrestle Kingdom 10 is next week

 

[23Barrettcity]

Yep, the whole show just sucks. I keep reading people saying the Raw is pretty good, not too bad, decent, and I'm just sat here like

Watch some classic attitude era Raw's and watch 2015, the difference is and

Shyt storylines, shyt promos, shyt matches, same old shyt, same Cena shyt for 11 years, Reigns is boring, comms are shyt, crowds are shyt, the damn ring ropes and set design is shyt, the whole show is bad. Yet I still watch every week cause I have some free time Joke's on me really

Remember when Vince opened the AE and said "We are not going to insult our audience's intelligence, not have the classic good guy vs bad guy anymore", well fukk you Vince you lying SOB

Wait are you really watching the attitude era ? The biggest thing was the main event scene other than that the AE wasny really developing all these new characters and stuff like everyone is acting. It had its bad matches and stuff that had zero build was constant fukkery and burying of Lower guys . The biggest thing the current roster has Is that most people on the roster can pretty much have a high quality match

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Wait are you really watching the attitude era ? The biggest thing was the main event scene other than that the AE wasny really developing all these new characters and stuff like everyone is acting. It had its bad matches and stuff that had zero build was constant fukkery and burying of Lower guys . The biggest thing the current roster has Is that most people on the roster can pretty much have a high quality match

Were you actually watching? Though you're right about match quality (I've always said the current roster has more legitimate wrestling ability than past rosters), but at one point or another, everybody back then got some type of shine, and you were able to have a vested interest in characters, whether lower card or main event. I had every reason to cheer or boo The Godfather, D'Lo, Crash, and APA as I did Mankind, Austin, HHH, Rock, etc. Even if the women couldn't wrestle, they were continuously seen and were linked to people to get you interested in them. Chyna with HHH/Eddie, Ivory/RTC, Tori with X-Pac/Kane, etc. Neville has more wrestling ability than a bunch of those people I named...but what reason should I cheer him? Why am I supposed to care about Ascension? I'm a fan of Ziggler, Rusev, Barrett and Ambrose, but the way they've been booked for awhile, what exactly is supposed to make me gain interest in them other than simply potential?

 

[Spyro]

Were you actually watching? Though you're right about match quality (I've always said the current roster has more legitimate wrestling ability than past rosters), but at one point or another, everybody back then got some type of shine, and you were able to have a vested interest in characters, whether lower card or main event. I had every reason to cheer or boo The Godfather, D'Lo, Crash, and APA as I did Mankind, Austin, HHH, Rock, etc. Even if the women couldn't wrestle, they were continuously seen and were linked to people to get you interested in them. Chyna with HHH/Eddie, Ivory/RTC, Tori with X-Pac/Kane, etc. Neville has more wrestling ability than a bunch of those people I named...but what reason should I cheer him? Why am I supposed to care about Ascension? I'm a fan of both Ziggler, Rusev, Barrett and Ambrose, but the way they've been booked for awhile, what exactly is supposed to make me gain interest in them other than simply potential?

Agree with all of that, the wrestling and in ring talent is probably at an all time high, but it's the storylines, the booking and the treatment of everyone not named Cena or Reigns that is the problem (one of them)