$15 Minimum Wage is KILLING Seattle.

[hayesc0]

people still eating at restaurants in 2015 ?

 

[KushSkywalker]

So basically Rest. owners have been relying on slave wages to make a profit. Now that they can't fukk their employees their bottom line is affected, so fukk em.

Not a viable revenue stream, if you can't make a reliable revenue stream without essentially screwing the workforce then capitalism decides you close down

Sorry you chose the wrong business. Don't feel bad for em cause they can't piggy back off lower income suffering.

 

[Doobie Doo]

15 for fast food?



Dem nikkas lucky as fukk.

Service better be chik fil a status and not hood mcdonalds status.

Are there any hoods in Seattle?

C'mon brubh don't be ignorant. Every City/Every state got a hood.

 

[KOOL_G_TRAP]

go eat overpriced food and get bad service and still need to pay a tip for what ? for they doing there job how much do you tip the nikka in footlocker thats grabbing youre shoes ?

 

[hayesc0]

go eat overpriced food and get bad service and still need to pay a tip for what ? for they doing there job how much do you tip the nikka in footlocker thats grabbing youre shoes ?

Im not a big fan of restaurants but to act like the concept is outdated is just stupid.

 

[West Coast Avenger]

C'mon man. City is air soft breh. I've never worried about anything. Washington State doesn't have traditional hoods.You have to watch out for the homeless and mentally disturbed more so than a home invasion or shooting.

the city is air soft but let's not act like the south end is Bellevue...shootings have been reoccurring....there was a drive by yesterday in Beacon Hill and a high school kid was killed....

 

[JordanwiththeWiz]

My parents own a restaurant and I know other family owned restaurants
They are very capable to cover that wage if they been able to stay in business 7.50 to 15 is easy if you don't want lose money cut your staff in half

 

[JordanwiththeWiz]

Just another case of white liberals playing volly with black people. And Seattle is the example of a "model minority" city. Asians and Indians run that city alongside with whites. It is a "black" less city even with the influx of Eritreas, Ethiopians and Somalis. They aren't seen as "undesirables"..That label is for African Americans.

Alias having fakkit

 

[iBrowse]

Inevitably, the conversation will segue into discussing wages for entry-level wage earners who are only earning a little higher than the minimum wage...."What's the point of going to college..."

 

[West Coast Avenger]

I saw that, but my dude we talking 26 murders last year for a city it's size. ..It's the obviously mentally deranged allowed to walk the streets that is troubling.

I never said Seattle was dangerous....just said it does have a hood...

 

[rapbeats]

go eat overpriced food and get bad service and still need to pay a tip for what ? for they doing there job how much do you tip the nikka in footlocker thats grabbing youre shoes ?

AND HERE's another thing. if they paid their workers a legit wage. Tips wouldnt be apart of the process. Tips are there when they earn little to nothing in their wages

 

[No1]

When the rationalization for something lies pretty much entirely in soft concepts like "empaty" and the "value of human time" its not very strong. Especially considering we wouldn't apply those same values to all the cheap outsourced labor that is a critical component of our economy. I will touch more on this later but I don't agree that these things should be tied together. Every idea should stand on its own... if it cant its probably not a good one.

Not really. The empathy is based on a certain baseline of self-respect that society believes that people are owed. To undermine empathy is to undermine the entire basis of progressive thought. It is to undermine the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the Second Bill of Rights, etc. I'm not sure what your outsourced statement means, so I cannot respond to that. I mean, we can even talk about John Rawls and "justice as fairness" and make it an issue of self-interest. But regardless, there are numerous ideas that only work in conjunction with other events and are strengthened by other occurrences. Minimum wage puts more money in the hands of society's worst off which-in conjunction with other things= a higher quality of life. Just because something does not solve the entirety of the problem does not mean we should not do it. But again, we're both talking at a surface level right now.

 

[the cac mamba]

people still eating at restaurants in 2015 ?

i dont ill get takeout all day before, fukk a restaurant

they both bring you the food, but theres no tip expected

i dont have anything against tipping, and i do it when i eat out, but its not a system i choose to support

 

[Nigerianwonder]

If they cant compete let em close.. if there is demand then another innovative entrepenuer will take their place and make money.

 

[unit321]

I knew it was going to fail the minute it haven't. You can't put a valuable price on invaluable talent like flipping burgers.
More Seattle restaurants close doors as $15 minimum wage approaches

Seattle’s $15 minimum wage law goes into effect on April 1, 2015. As that date approaches, restaurants across the city are making the financial decision to close shop. The Washington Policy Center writes that “closings have occurred across the city, from Grub in the upscale Queen Anne Hill neighborhood, to Little Uncle in gritty Pioneer Square, to the Boat Street Cafe on Western Avenue near the waterfront.”

Of course, restaurants close for a variety of reasons. But, according to Seattle Magazine, the “impending minimum wage hike to $15 per hour” is playing a “major factor.” That’s not surprising, considering “about 36% of restaurant earnings go to paying labor costs.” Seattle Magazine,

“Washington Restaurant Association’s Anthony Anton puts it this way: “It’s not a political problem; it’s a math problem.”

“He estimates that a common budget breakdown among sustaining Seattle restaurants so far has been the following: 36 percent of funds are devoted to labor, 30 percent to food costs and 30 percent go to everything else (all other operational costs). The remaining 4 percent has been the profit margin, and as a result, in a $700,000 restaurant, he estimates that the average restauranteur in Seattle has been making $28,000 a year.

“With the minimum wage spike, however, he says that if restaurant owners made no changes, the labor cost in quick service restaurants would rise to 42 percent and in full service restaurants to 47 percent.”


Restaurant owners, expecting to operate on thinner margins, have tried to adapt in several ways including “higher menu prices, cheaper, lower-quality ingredients, reduced opening times, and cutting work hours and firing workers,” according toThe Seattle Times and Seattle Eater magazine. As the Washington Policy Center points out, when these strategies are not enough, businesses close, “workers lose their jobs and the neighborhood loses a prized amenity.”

A spokesman for the Washington Restaurant Association told the Washington Policy Center, “Every [restaurant] operator I’m talking to is in panic mode, trying to figure out what the new world will look like… Seattle is the first city in this thing and everyone’s watching, asking how is this going to change?” The Washington Policy Center,

“Seattle is rightly famous for great neighborhood restaurants. That won’t change. What will change is that fewer people will be able to afford to dine out, and as a result there will be fewer great restaurants to enjoy. People probably won’t notice when some restaurant workers lose their jobs, but as prices rise and some neighborhood businesses close, the quality of life in urban Seattle will become a little bit poorer.”

Well, it wouldn't surprise me if some of these restaurants locate outside the Seattle city limits.