15 year old who shot Brian Robinson also pleads guilty to killing a 15 year old a few weeks later

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Some of these kids are too far gone.

Have to worry about those behind them

Not at 15, bruh. He isn't too far gone at 15...

A 15-year old on his time gets worse behaviorally when people quit on them, as is being advocated in this thread, or when they succumb to the praises of older and/or influential people around them, which, he's in jail, headed to prison, there will be no shortage of people around him who praise him as being "a real nikka". These kinds of people were probably around him out here, too...

Any teenager can be saved because all these teenagers are looking for strong leadership and guidance and someone to believe in them. Sometimes you find that with real people and sometimes you find that with terrible people or in the streets. But when you're that young, you still are wide-eyed and look up to others fir affirmation and as role models...

Every time this discussion comes up I have to remind myself that most people weren't locked up around adults and other wild kids in their formative, coming of age years. So you're looking at situations like these from the outside-in. It's a different perspective, I get it, but looking from inside-out, I know these guys. I understand them. Fir the vast majority of them, most people who could help decline to or offer little or rescind help entirely. And guys this young aren't generally learned, matured, or strong enough to resist the factors that cause this kind of behavior to expand...
 

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Kids are wild everywhere, but DC seems to be on another level. RIP to the 15 year old.
Bruh…. I work for a DC agency that deals with DC youth and you are 100% correct. Folks from other parts of the country that deal with our kids say that they (DC kids) are the absolute worst. We‘re talking agency’s from NYC/ CHI/ BMore and LA :francis:
 

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I think involving the parents in the sentencing works two ways.

1. Your Demon seed is out here, running around, bucking at 'opps' and killing people. The guidance part of adolescence was missed or misunderstood and that is on the parents.

2. If kids knew that their parents were culpable for their actions, that would be one hell of a deterance. Like, my single parent mom of three coyls go to jail or prison because of my actions. My siblings might have to move in with grandparents, the system, etc.

The calculus gets changed by involving the parents of underage children.
 

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Not at 15, bruh. He isn't too far gone at 15...

A 15-year old on his time gets worse behaviorally when people quit on them, as is being advocated in this thread, or when they succumb to the praises of older and/or influential people around them, which, he's in jail, headed to prison, there will be no shortage of people around him who praise him as being "a real nikka". These kinds of people were probably around him out here, too...

Any teenager can be saved because all these teenagers are looking for strong leadership and guidance and someone to believe in them. Sometimes you find that with real people and sometimes you find that with terrible people or in the streets. But when you're that young, you still are wide-eyed and look up to others fir affirmation and as role models...

Every time this discussion comes up I have to remind myself that most people weren't locked up around adults and other wild kids in their formative, coming of age years. So you're looking at situations like these from the outside-in. It's a different perspective, I get it, but looking from inside-out, I know these guys. I understand them. Fir the vast majority of them, most people who could help decline to or offer little or rescind help entirely. And guys this young aren't generally learned, matured, or strong enough to resist the factors that cause this kind of behavior to expand...

So how would you handle 15 year old murderers? Let them back on the street? Probation?
 

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Not at 15, bruh. He isn't too far gone at 15...

A 15-year old on his time gets worse behaviorally when people quit on them, as is being advocated in this thread, or when they succumb to the praises of older and/or influential people around them, which, he's in jail, headed to prison, there will be no shortage of people around him who praise him as being "a real nikka". These kinds of people were probably around him out here, too...

Any teenager can be saved because all these teenagers are looking for strong leadership and guidance and someone to believe in them. Sometimes you find that with real people and sometimes you find that with terrible people or in the streets. But when you're that young, you still are wide-eyed and look up to others fir affirmation and as role models...

Every time this discussion comes up I have to remind myself that most people weren't locked up around adults and other wild kids in their formative, coming of age years. So you're looking at situations like these from the outside-in. It's a different perspective, I get it, but looking from inside-out, I know these guys. I understand them. Fir the vast majority of them, most people who could help decline to or offer little or rescind help entirely. And guys this young aren't generally learned, matured, or strong enough to resist the factors that cause this kind of behavior to expand...
I’ll be honest with you man… The world needs more folks like you. Folks like you got patience God bless ya… But dammit I don’t share that patience.
 

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Not at 15, bruh. He isn't too far gone at 15...

A 15-year old on his time gets worse behaviorally when people quit on them, as is being advocated in this thread, or when they succumb to the praises of older and/or influential people around them, which, he's in jail, headed to prison, there will be no shortage of people around him who praise him as being "a real nikka". These kinds of people were probably around him out here, too...

Any teenager can be saved because all these teenagers are looking for strong leadership and guidance and someone to believe in them. Sometimes you find that with real people and sometimes you find that with terrible people or in the streets. But when you're that young, you still are wide-eyed and look up to others fir affirmation and as role models...

Every time this discussion comes up I have to remind myself that most people weren't locked up around adults and other wild kids in their formative, coming of age years. So you're looking at situations like these from the outside-in. It's a different perspective, I get it, but looking from inside-out, I know these guys. I understand them. Fir the vast majority of them, most people who could help decline to or offer little or rescind help entirely. And guys this young aren't generally learned, matured, or strong enough to resist the factors that cause this kind of behavior to expand...
hes already committed murder and a attempted murder during a carjacking, the reality is hes way to far gone at this point. he has serious impluse issues
 

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Not at 15, bruh. He isn't too far gone at 15...

A 15-year old on his time gets worse behaviorally when people quit on them, as is being advocated in this thread, or when they succumb to the praises of older and/or influential people around them, which, he's in jail, headed to prison, there will be no shortage of people around him who praise him as being "a real nikka". These kinds of people were probably around him out here, too...

Any teenager can be saved because all these teenagers are looking for strong leadership and guidance and someone to believe in them. Sometimes you find that with real people and sometimes you find that with terrible people or in the streets. But when you're that young, you still are wide-eyed and look up to others fir affirmation and as role models...

Every time this discussion comes up I have to remind myself that most people weren't locked up around adults and other wild kids in their formative, coming of age years. So you're looking at situations like these from the outside-in. It's a different perspective, I get it, but looking from inside-out, I know these guys. I understand them. Fir the vast majority of them, most people who could help decline to or offer little or rescind help entirely. And guys this young aren't generally learned, matured, or strong enough to resist the factors that cause this kind of behavior to expand...

Interesting perspective. Do you mind sharing your story?
 

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Not at 15, bruh. He isn't too far gone at 15...

A 15-year old on his time gets worse behaviorally when people quit on them, as is being advocated in this thread, or when they succumb to the praises of older and/or influential people around them, which, he's in jail, headed to prison, there will be no shortage of people around him who praise him as being "a real nikka". These kinds of people were probably around him out here, too...

Any teenager can be saved because all these teenagers are looking for strong leadership and guidance and someone to believe in them. Sometimes you find that with real people and sometimes you find that with terrible people or in the streets. But when you're that young, you still are wide-eyed and look up to others fir affirmation and as role models...

Every time this discussion comes up I have to remind myself that most people weren't locked up around adults and other wild kids in their formative, coming of age years. So you're looking at situations like these from the outside-in. It's a different perspective, I get it, but looking from inside-out, I know these guys. I understand them. Fir the vast majority of them, most people who could help decline to or offer little or rescind help entirely. And guys this young aren't generally learned, matured, or strong enough to resist the factors that cause this kind of behavior to expand...
You were lucky. I was lucky.

This current generation is gonna need to be luckier than ever. The patience is long worn thin across the board.
 

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Not at 15, bruh. He isn't too far gone at 15...

A 15-year old on his time gets worse behaviorally when people quit on them, as is being advocated in this thread, or when they succumb to the praises of older and/or influential people around them, which, he's in jail, headed to prison, there will be no shortage of people around him who praise him as being "a real nikka". These kinds of people were probably around him out here, too...

Any teenager can be saved because all these teenagers are looking for strong leadership and guidance and someone to believe in them. Sometimes you find that with real people and sometimes you find that with terrible people or in the streets. But when you're that young, you still are wide-eyed and look up to others fir affirmation and as role models...

Every time this discussion comes up I have to remind myself that most people weren't locked up around adults and other wild kids in their formative, coming of age years. So you're looking at situations like these from the outside-in. It's a different perspective, I get it, but looking from inside-out, I know these guys. I understand them. Fir the vast majority of them, most people who could help decline to or offer little or rescind help entirely. And guys this young aren't generally learned, matured, or strong enough to resist the factors that cause this kind of behavior to expand...
STFU
 
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