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[Ego Noir]

The implied mockery in this one depends on an assumption that the leader 'understands it's a sham'.


Pure speculation.

 

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[Ego Noir]

Peace brother and thanks for the response, I'm not religious but I can relate to the ritual thing because before I played ball me and my teammates would perform this crazy dance that ended with a stance lol. A lot of people thought we were crazy but like you said, we didn't believe there was any power behind it but it was just something symbolic and are personal ritual. I guess its like how Lebron James throws up powder or D wade hangs from the net. So how about this example then, You have somebody that is not religious that is afraid of the number 13 and then the religious person that is afraid of 666. Now to me they are just numbers but since one person is religious does that shield them from being called superstitious? because they believe their number is bad luck over the non religious person fearing 13.

They are both the same thing. Its just that one is hiding behind an established societal label.

A profane individual fears 13 cause he believes it will give him back luck. A religious fears 666 cause he believes its the number of the devil.

Both adhere to a system of beliefs. Its just that the religious beliefs are tied to a defined system that we call religion. But the profane adheres to a system of beliefs as well, one that he carved out of societal norms. Doesnt matter if its not labeled a religion, regardless, its still a 'system' of beliefs brought about by the secular world.

 

[SonofaGod]

Any learned religious or sorcerer knows his practice is ritual. Not supertition, there is a difference.

In ritual, one knows there is no inherent power in the practice itself, but the symbolism. If a regular joe performs the ritual, it's nothing but 'eating crackers and drinking juice'.

But if one who has devotion and is learned performs the same, it invokes a strong symbolic event in the 'subconscious' of the ritualist, thereby having an impression on his mind and therefore his actions in the future.

Corporations exploit a basic form of this every single day.

OP is a great question.

 

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[Ego Noir]

Good post fam, you pretty much /thread with this response. Do you think people would rather Believe vs. Know? because when you know something believing is no longer required. But when it comes to beliefs you don't have to prove them or really answer to anybody. I have a friend that won't get tested for STD's because he is afraid that he might have something. So his belief is more comforting than actually knowing whether or not he has something. So I wonder when you have beliefs that can actually be proven wrong or right, would most people want to know or would they rather believe.

What I would say is most people would rather just believe than actually justifying (or proving) their belief. Thats why alot of belief or what people claim to know are just shallow beliefs, especially in religion. Nobody has the balls to go deeper so they just accept what someone else (who seems like they know what theyre talking about) told them. Then when a situation presses you about your belief, you end up reacting like a hamster

But IMO that is not true belief. True belief is taking that belief to the ends of the world. When you do that not only will you understand it to its core along that journey, but it speaks a passion for it that nobody can take from you.

How can you truly say you are the best 'boxer' who ever lived but a muscle head walks in the room wanting to fight you and you back down? You not really tuff breh

 

[Crakface]

Everyone is one or the other. It doesnt matter though because its just two different ways to deal with the same bullshyt.

 

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