1998 was a very underrated year in Hip-Hop ... so many banging albums came out

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A handful of great lp's.

But a lot of big names with lackluster follow-up projects from better projects.

Sadly no one was trying to hear Kane, PE, Cube, Kool G. Rap.

If I recall, this was the time in NYC when Jay, DMX, The Lox, and Bad Boy took over.

We're about to see Nelly, Ja Rule, and unfortunately Eminem.

No, it was not 1988 or 1993, but looking back, there was a steady stream of quality albums coming out damn near every week.

The word "classic" gets thrown around too much and has lost meaning on this site. But there were soooo many albums that came out in 1998 that were solid from beginning to end. There were also lots of albums that came out that had plenty of flaws and/or were disappointing, but still had some great songs and spent lots of time in my rotation.

Here is a partial list:

Pete Rock - Soul Survivor
Outkast - Aquemini
Jay-Z - Vol. 2: Hard Knock Life
Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Mos Def & Talib Kweli are Blackstar
Brand Nubian - Foundation
Ras Kass - Rasassination
Xzibit - 40 Dayz & 40 Nightz
Fat Joe - Don Cartegena
Big Punisher - Capital Punishment
RZA - RZA as Bobby Digital in Stereo
Method Man - Tical 2000: Judgement Day
Redman - Doc's Da Name 2000
Gang Starr - Moment of Truth
DMX - It's Dark and Hell is Hot
DMX - Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of My Blood
Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty
M.O.P. - First Family 4 Life
Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Busta Rhymes - Extinction Level Event
Ice Cube - War & Peace Vol. 1: The War Disc
Heltah Skeltah - Magnum Force
Kool G Rap - Roots of Evil
Big Daddy Kane - Veteranz Day
Public Enemy - He Got Game
A Tribe Called Quest - The Love Movement
Noreaga - N.O.R.E.
Funkmaster Flex - The Mixtape Vol. 3
Canibus - Can-I-Bus
Kurupt - Kuruption
Twista - Mobstabiity
Pras - Ghetto Superstar
DJ Clue - The Professional
Cappadonna - The Pillage
 

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1998 just continued the overall degradation and low quality culture lacking fascination in the genre of rap.


It was only two albums really really worth it.

Black star
Roots of evil : Kool g rap.



Also la the dark man which was hidden in bins. If you did not know to grab it debut day like you Should have. [I bought it release day at fye].

Everything else in general was a commercial low quality revenue grab from most of the artists.

Or the sonic landscape changed much from the commercial jiggy bullshyt.
Not many rappers survived that change in sonic landscape in real time as well.

That generation began the technical skill degradation and low quality period on a commercial level.

That continued from the low quality dissention of rap albums and lp's in 1995.

This year signaled the beginning of the sales spike era and revenue grab destruction of quality in rap.
in the systemic level it operates on now.



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1998 just continued the overall degradation and low quality culture lacking fascination in the genre of rap.


It was only two albums really really worth it.

Black star
Roots of evil : Kool g rap.



Also la the dark man which was hidden in bins. If you did not know to grab it debut day like you Should have. [I bought it release day at fye].

Everything else in general was a commercial low quality revenue grab from most of the artists.

Or the sonic landscape changed much from the commercial jiggy bullshyt.
Not many rappers survived that change in sonic landscape in real time as well.

That generation began the technical skill degradation and low quality period on a commercial level.

That continued from the low quality dissention of rap albums and lp's in 1995.

This year signaled the beginning of the sales spike era and revenue grab destruction of quality in rap.
in the systemic level it operates on now.



Art Barr
Moment Of Truth wasn't worth it?
 

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Looking overall it was a solid year but I agree with others who said 95-97 were better overall by a decent margin, although I liked quite a few from 98 like Aquemini, Moment Of Truth and Black Stars album along with Nore's Debut album which was his best quite easily IMO. It did begin a decline though as said above and it was downhill from there. 98 was cool but looking at the list of albums the years befoe it was not on that level.
 

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underrated by who??? That year has possibly the best release date in hip hop history with September 29th. I spent a lot of money that day 25 years ago. Google if you don't know what dropped that day. I got 5 albums from that day.

I know exactly who dropped that day. I remember going to the store and only having enough money for one album. I went back and forth in my head for an hour, struggling to make a decision before I grabbed Jay-Z's album.
 

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A handful of great lp's.

But a lot of big names with lackluster follow-up projects from better projects.

Sadly no one was trying to hear Kane, PE, Cube, Kool G. Rap.

If I recall, this was the time in NYC when Jay, DMX, The Lox, and Bad Boy took over.

We're about to see Nelly, Ja Rule, and unfortunately Eminem.

You make a lot of valid points about the disturbing overall trends in terms of who was dominating airwaves, etc.

But just looking a what was released and what I listened to, there was a lot that came out that year that I enjoyed.
 

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No, it was not 1988 or 1993, but looking back, there was a steady stream of quality albums coming out damn near every week.

The word "classic" gets thrown around too much and has lost meaning on this site. But there were soooo many albums that came out in 1998 that were solid from beginning to end. There were also lots of albums that came out that had plenty of flaws and/or were disappointing, but still had some great songs and spent lots of time in my rotation.

Here is a partial list:

Pete Rock - Soul Survivor
Outkast - Aquemini
Jay-Z - Vol. 2: Hard Knock Life
Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Mos Def & Talib Kweli are Blackstar
Brand Nubian - Foundation
Ras Kass - Rasassination
Xzibit - 40 Dayz & 40 Nightz
Fat Joe - Don Cartegena
Big Punisher - Capital Punishment
RZA - RZA as Bobby Digital in Stereo
Method Man - Tical 2000: Judgement Day
Redman - Doc's Da Name 2000
Gang Starr - Moment of Truth
DMX - It's Dark and Hell is Hot
DMX - Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of My Blood
Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty
M.O.P. - First Family 4 Life
Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Busta Rhymes - Extinction Level Event
Ice Cube - War & Peace Vol. 1: The War Disc
Heltah Skeltah - Magnum Force
Kool G Rap - Roots of Evil
Big Daddy Kane - Veteranz Day
Public Enemy - He Got Game
A Tribe Called Quest - The Love Movement
Noreaga - N.O.R.E.
Funkmaster Flex - The Mixtape Vol. 3
Canibus - Can-I-Bus
Kurupt - Kuruption
Twista - Mobstabiity
Pras - Ghetto Superstar
DJ Clue - The Professional
Cappadonna - The Pillage

Ummm, not it was not :dahell:
 

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Moment Of Truth wasn't worth it?
I like Art Barr's posts, but sometimes dude rambles for the sake of being a shock jock. Kool G Rap is one of my favorite MCs of all time, but if he thinks Roots of Evil was a better album than Capital Punishment, First Family for Life, or Moment of Truth then we probably will never agree on anything concerning hip hop
 

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Moment Of Truth wasn't worth it?




After above the clouds in real time for that album.

It pales incomparison to the original first three gangstarr albums replay value. Where hard to earn and this album signaled a systemic drop off in quality of replayability for gangstarr.
It was apparent on hard to earn.
Then overly apparent on moment of truth.
Plus the sonic landscape change in regards to technical emcee skill output. Where guru was now heading into golden era legacy artist style domain. Where it signaled guru more than likely would never recommit to learn.
or try to excel with this significant generational landscape change. Also being centered around the culturally taboo idea of revenue grab rnb.
fueled to Luke dancer sonic landscape style commercially.


In that guru definitely was resistant to this change and like most in rap for that Era. You could hear the discomfort and possible long term resistance for a number of cultiral artist to adjust.
That makes that gangstarr's album replayability difficult to insert in the standouts of the year.


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I like Art Barr's posts, but sometimes dude rambles for the sake of being a shock jock. Kool G Rap is one of my favorite MCs of all time, but if he thinks Roots of Evil was a better album than Capital Punishment, First Family for Life, or Moment of Truth then we probably will never agree on anything concerning hip hop

First off.

Respectfully.

You just a fan of rap.

You not in no pillar.

For me to be like you know hiphop culture better than me tho. Let alone the actual business of rap. Plus an actual rap album.
as it pertains to actual quality in first listen and review.
For actual purchase.
you have never had any track record in review and you never have an album review and got credit for it. as the definitive review. Just for rap albums.
Not to mention other genres and multiple businesses as well. Nor recognizing other talent and knowing the potential to publically state it and say it in their own actual thread.
In the vast sea of the internet board to board domain to domain.
Back then...
You were not a regarded as the best review on Davey d.com.
to even rival my real time reviews.
as auran dayspring on that board.
Nor to this day.

I like you as a poster.
Yet you have not reviewed or showcased any understanding anywhere on my level. To the point. You can not even reference a point in time. Where you even reviewed an album and rated consistently.
Or even link us to a relevent review thread of yours. With an actual real review that understands any idea of the pillar of emcee'n. Nor the business of rap in the new school way of thought.
You offer sidebar like everyone else. Who only has rap as a gateway. From the very grassroots crew and marketer from Chicago in reg knot or reg know. Where I fit in as the protege. to a goat talent as an emcee. Plus before that my pedigree from breaking as a kid as atari force. To then later as a teen to being so integrated with hiphop. I am known as the underage kid in the venue from before the golden age. Plus a graf crew leader to standout dot one.
To see what you all were marketed.
as a real gateway in real time for decades.
In comparison.

You have Yet to.
show a penchant or knowhow of hiphop culture. To rate a rap album made In the business of rap.
Nor have you ever been known for a great review of talent for a quarter century.

Now as far as review of capital punishment.

Outside of pun doing little Italy.
He surpasses none of the rhymes g rap supplies in his own originality in his own actual skillset on roots of evil.
Pun on release is pun but in being pun.
Pun is completely derivative of g rap and in timeline. Is a complete late start to g rap at 28 years old on a delayed debut. Which needed the actual joe remix to take the best actual rap commercial single of 1998 easy. Yet in that. Every pun record and the impact of that single. Is completely derivative from g rap as an emcee.

To the point, even the rhymes of Punishment incredible arguable goat commercial.impact remix of all time as far as sales a d skill output. Are completely a what if.. of the taboo g rap song that which shall nOt be named

Plus since pun is not directly from g rap's actual family tree. So how in the fukk?
do you think capital punishment verse for verse or direction culturally in emcee skill is on par with the originator g rap. Who on roots of evil.

Lemme First show you the difference between why I am rhr goat and you just side bar. Cool side bar but not greatest of all time legendary..


On roots of evil.

G rap Would start a run. That would start to ask a question. That was since answered finally by rakim on seventh seal. Yet on roots of evil. G rap followed up the best verse of the year.

With arguably the best feature run by an actual past darkhorse for goat to rakim. While also rivaling the best posse/feature cut artist after the golden era in busta. A full decade after the golden era that g tap would hail from.
In every record every verse with no big time commercial style record as well.

So as well as pun rhymes on capital punishment whatever you feel is pun skill showcase in height.

Pun is surpassed in every possible way by g rap in every skill metric you can compare them to.

Plus the other album you stated.
The best rapper on those album lil fame.
Is also completely derivative of g rap. That you should known to apply that same sentiment to the other albums you listed as well.


In that,.....
Capital Punishment is not better than roots of evil. Plus roots of evil showcases what the originator is. Versus an emcee who is a late start and derivative of a then goat candidate is or was?




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no son, I'm a fan of hip hop since 1984. Roots of Evil at best is G raps 4th best album. MOT is not every Gang Starr fan's best album, but a majority of them I've heard over the years(not all) have stated this is the one where they figured it out and unintentionally crossed over. And yes I was a Gang Starr fan since 89. Attended one of their concerts, Spoke to the whole crew. Now I'm not saying Either Guru or Pun are better than G rap. G rap is one of my personal favorites of all time. Him and Rakim. Chuck D is also one of my all time favorites (PE is my favorite group). An album consists of beats AND lyrics. Beats on Roots of evil were dope(especially the Stephani Mills sample used by Pudgee and Lost Boyz 2 years prior) but there is no way on earth that was a better album than MOT. no way, no how. Biggie came from Kane's family tree, are we to also believe Daddy's Home was better than Ready to Die? And I liked Daddy's Home too.

For the record, my house is like a goddamn museum of hip hop books, mags(literally decades worth), vinyl, cds, cassettes, show fliers, posters, equipment(3 sets of turntables, and cassettes I personally recoded hip hop programs off the radio over 30 years ago until around 2004. So no, I'm not a casual.... I lived it in real time just like you so I won't get caught up in this, "I'm more hip hop than you cuz I like this albums better" :russ:
 
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1997>>>

Baduizm
Velvet Rope
Life After Death
Wu Tang Forever
Street Gospel
Gridlock’d Soundtrack
Share My World
In My Lifetime, Vol.1
No Way Out
Harlem World

and i’m leaving some out too
 
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