1st and 2nd all defensive teams announced

[smitty22]

That Bud light Orange too tho..

 

[Emoryal]

Besides steals & blocks per game, what else do they use to determine a great defender

narrative
biased eye tests
hype
fan opinions

I'm sure

 

[The_Third_Man]

4 years ago, I thought Aaron Gordon and Nerlens Noel were going to be on one of those teams by now

 

[KingJay]

I just realized...this nikka out here lookin like a dustier version of Q-tip

take this dap+rep 2 piece combo

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

narrative
biased eye tests
hype
fan opinions

I'm sure

That's what I figured

 

[KingJay]

Besides steals & blocks per game, what else do they use to determine a great defender

Eye test, team success/impact, reputation, and most importantly now analytical measures and tracking data like DRPM, DBPM, DWS, deflections, etc.

RPM is generally the best all-in-one stat in my opinion if you're interested, especially for defense

 

[panopticon]

take this dap+rep 2 piece combo

Philly arena DJ bout to start trolling him with Electric Relaxation every time he checks in

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

How in the hell did Murray make the 2nd-team? He only averaged 21 minutes (a large amount against second units). There's no way anyone can justify picking him - don't get me wrong, he's a very good defender, but he didn't average enough minutes nor did he have enough defensive reps. Especially over dudes who averaged 10+ minutes and started all throughout the season. This year's teams are even worse than last year's.

Horford and Smart should be 1st-team, no question - the fact Smart hasn't even made either team in his career is a travesty.
Oladipo shouldn't be on either team
Covington shouldn't be on either team
Gobert got far too many 1st team votes (Embiid's are far too low)
Holiday and Davis deserve their selections

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Eye test, team success/impact, reputation, and most importantly now analytical measures and tracking data like DRPM, DBPM, DWS, deflections, etc.

RPM is generally the best all-in-one stat in my opinion if you're interested, especially for defense

 

[KingJay]

Philly arena DJ bout to start trolling him with Electric Relaxation every time he checks in

Tip's no stranger around Philly, we need to get him to a game

 

[KingJay]

What I say breh

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Jimmy missed 2 many games to make it IMO but happy for him.

Gobert made the 1st-team playing less games, and Murray made the 2nd-team averaging 21 minutes. Butler most definitely deserves his selection.

 

[str8up]

Is Murray the youngest player to get named to an All-Defense team? I can't think of anyone else off top

Kobe and Duncan were both 21 too

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Good list. At least there are no more legacy picks like kobe or cp3

CP3 had 74 total points, only five behind Butler. He's still getting legacy votes.

Both AD & Jrue are terrific defenders, but having multiple 1st team selections for a team that was only average defensively is

To be fair, when Boogie went down their defense got A LOT better.

Pelicans defense before Boogie's injury - 106.9 DRTG (bottom-10 defense - #21)
Pelicans defense after Boogie's injury - 103.8 DRTG (top-10 defense - #6)

Word to @Left.A1

 

[AAKing23]

How in the hell did Murray make the 2nd-team? He only averaged 21 minutes (a large amount coming off the bench). There's no way anyone can justify picking him - don't get me wrong, he's a very good defender, but he didn't average enough minutes nor did he have enough defensive reps. Especially over dudes who averaged 10+ minutes and started all throughout the season. This year's teams are even worse than last year's.

Horford and Smart should be 1st-team, no question - the fact Smart hasn't even made either team in his career is a travesty.
Oladipo shouldn't be on either team
Covington shouldn't be on either team
Gobert got far too many 1st team votes (Embiid's are far too low)
Holiday and Davis deserve their selections

GTFOH