2 Valedictorians in Texas Declare Undocumented Status, and Outrage Ensues

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This situation is exactly why the middle class will always be full of blustering idiots, tripping over each other as they fight for scraps.

Let's ignore that:
Just to clarify, because some readers have asked, making tuition free in 2012 would have required $62.6 billion on top of what state and local governments already spend subsidizing public colleges, as well as some of the federal spending that doesn't go towards financial aid. Again, you can find a detailed breakdown of how our colleges are funded in theDepartment of Education's data.

Let's just be honest about the conversation. No reason to call her names or tell her "kind" to leave. Just say, "I don't feel comfortable giving scholarships to individuals who earned them as American students, in American high schools, if they don't have documentation to prove they are American citizens."

The only reason her citizenship status matters is because 50% of the democratic party and 100% of the republican party don't believe in universal education initiatives beyond the outdated public school model.

This conversation IS identity politics idiots:
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Just posting those links for supposed democrats, progressives, or independents is fukkn infuriating.
 

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:comeon: U mean like when some spanish pirate discovered other peoples land
i have to say, all things considered, that this isn't a good analogy

what if the natives didnt want to pay for the spanish to go to school, or share their resources with them. would that have made them 'racists'? :dead:

it isnt about the fukkin land. mexicans can have any patch of former mexico they want. they arent coming here for that :what: theyre coming here for the american governments resources and money
 

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i have to say, all things considered, that this isn't a good analogy

what if the natives didnt want to pay for the spanish to go to school, or share their resources with them. would that have made them 'racists'? :dead:

it isnt about the fukkin land. mexicans can have any patch of former mexico they want. they arent coming here for that :what: theyre coming here for the american governments resources and money

:comeon: Bruh..The girl got a PRIVATE scholarship from some private entity...I thought republicans are the very same party that says private organisations can spend their money how they want....

Remember the rethugs saying how unfair it is making the catholics pay for birth control but now when a private group wants to sponsor a non citizen theres outrage:sas2: you rethugs cant have it both ways..do property rights matter or not



The columbus analogy is valid in the sense that if you call what this kid did fraud then you have to accept the whole system is built on fraud from columbus to the broken treaties with the natives and so on.
 

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:comeon: Bruh..The girl got a PRIVATE scholarship from some private entity...I thought republicans are the very same party that says private organisations can spend their money how they want....

Remember the rethugs saying how unfair it is making the catholics pay for birth control but now when a private group wants to sponsor a non citizen theres outrage:sas2: you rethugs cant have it both ways..do property rights matter or not



The columbus analogy is valid in the sense that if you call what this kid did fraud then you have to accept the whole system is built on fraud from columbus to the broken treaties with the natives and so on.
alright then fukk the scholarship. public school? her and her families medical bills?

i mean i just dont understand who exactly is fighting for these people to stretch our resources thinner :yeshrug:

and what about the fact that you can, in fact, do it legally :snoop:
 

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alright then fukk the scholarship. public school? her and her families medical bills?

i mean i just dont understand who exactly is fighting for these people to stretch our resources thinner :yeshrug:
That i agree with..there has to be some kind of control and selection....common sense reform to keep the productive and peaceful and keep out trash...but it has to be nuanced and honest and in this environment theres too much emotion for that.

I hold little hope for any meaningful reform
 

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I said MOST Coli nikkaz first off but I'm assuming your referring to yourself so good for you. Just surprising how an undocumented high school student causes such grief in your life even in spite of your successes.

But her biggest crime is being her without documentation and in spite of that still managed to be a upstanding individual in our society and country. She's ready to make a difference in a world and you are a Nurse with a BSN and expert in cybersecurity who's main focus on her citizenship status.

Go be great instead of complaining online about others greatness.

Have the wrong priorities in life brehs :snoop:

So I shouldn't complain when people break the law?

You do realize how stupid that shyt sounds right?
 

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Committing fraud is cool now?
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All this is boiling down to is "We should let 100 drunk driving ass Home Depot ass Mexicans because my god look at this one that made it."

It reminds me of Muhammed Ali and him talking about the snakes. I should let 10,000 snakes in because 1,000 won't bite me.
 

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I say these valedictorians should pay for their cri-....well behavior, they should not have to admit any wrong doing, just pay a $50 fine in case any feelings were hurt. These college bound superstars will be job creators and support our economy, so they are too important to deport.
 

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All this is boiling down to is "We should let 100 drunk driving ass Home Depot ass Mexicans because my god look at this one that made it."

It reminds me of Muhammed Ali and him talking about the snakes. I should let 10,000 snakes in because 1,000 won't bite me.
ok breh I got a solution
I say these valedictorians should pay for their cri-....well behavior, they should not have to admit any wrong doing, just pay a $50 fine in case any feelings were hurt. These college bound superstars will be job creators and support our economy, so they are too important to deport. to hurt them is to hurt America, do you hate America?
 

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Kylie Fitzpatrick, a media relations specialist at UTAustin, said in a statement that Ms. Ibarra’s scholarship was in accordance with Texas state laws.

University of Texas schools — have for decades granted two-semester tuition waivers to valedictorians of Texas public high schools, without regard to their residency status,” the statement read, NBC reported. “State law also does not distinguish between documented and undocumented graduates of Texas high schools in admissions and financial aid decisions. University policies reflect that law.”

:sas2:So republicans want states rights for everything else but this issue
 
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