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Lebron is not even the OVERALL all player than Kobe
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Sure he isn't.
 

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Kobe isn't better than Lebron. It's not even worth debating. Efficiency is a great stat. PER, Win Shares, and Per 36 numbers are for stat geeks. Field gold percentage isn't.

It is when you use it as the primary basis for judging players. :yes:

lmfao@lebron being better than Kobe. Maybe in espnland, Jordan know who better you should look it up. :sas2:

Matter fact, get this HGH Pippen the fukk outta this thread this is about one of the most fun GOAT franchise squads ever assembled not a wack ass fullback playing SF. :childplease:
 

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best post in this thread.

for all the talk about Kobe not making his teammates better, its seems just about everyone has career years playing next to him while dudes have the worst years of their careers next to LeBron.

watch Bosh go back to being a 24/11 player next season and Wade be a 25/5/5 guy again. while Love/Kyrie get called frauds that Bron has to drag. :troll:

A sports analyst was actually brave enough to write an article about this without being suspended. Bron is a stat protector. He has a number in his mind that he has to get every game. If he is low on assists (his goal is at least 7 per game) he demands the ball and manafactures an assist at the expense of someone else. So instead of a fastbreak layup for Wade or Chalmers it becomes a spread the court play for Bron where he kicks it to the corner for an open three. If the shot goes in it is an assist for Bron but if it clanks it is "Bron needs help." Same thing with his point total when he is low on points he will tend to lay in the backcourt and wait for the fastbreak at the expense of guys like Chalmers, Cole and Wade. Players that play with Bron end up sacrifing their own stats to play with him. He makes no one better.
 
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It is when you use it as the primary basis for judging players. :yes:

lmfao@lebron being better than Kobe. Maybe in espnland, Jordan know who better you should look it up. :sas2:
Jordan hates Lebron (on a competitors level). Because he knows that Lebron has a legitimate shot at catching. Kobe doesn't.

He's just not better than Lebron. Why is that such a big deal? :dahell:

He's better than everyone else. Just not better than Lebron
 

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Jordan hates Lebron (on a competitors level). Because he knows that Lebron has a legitimate shot at catching. Kobe doesn't.

He's just not better than Lebron. Why is that such a big deal? :dahell:

He's better than everyone else. Just not better than Lebron

Whoa whoa, are you saying Jordan isn't better than lebron now or that Kobe is better than everyone else except lebron? Either way, I think you should re-consider your claims that you don't even "fukk with lebron like that" cuz you sound like a straight up bron stanley. And your "Jordan hates lebron" excuse has been used ad nauseum but truth is Jordan always looked at Kobe as the son he never had. He don't fukk with lebron cuz he gettin souped up to his level with hardly the same level of skill or heart. lebron and that busted ass jumper wouldn't of survived the west he should be glad he feasted on a shyt conference all these years.

Stopping Kobe in his prime was a team effort, all it takes to stop lebron is boris diaw. Get this bum ass nikka the fukk outta here tell em to get his weight up tryna compare to the one shooting gawd. :russ:
 
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I think the biggest thing you're missing is efficiency. Jordan shot over 50% most of his career. Lowest being 41% in the year he came back from retirement. His highest being 53% in 91.

Kobe has never shot over 46%. Not once in his career, and his best year from 3 is 38%, Jordan's best year from 3 is 42%.

Coming from someone who thinks people DRASTICALLY overrate Jordan, Kobe doesn't do anything better than him. Nothing. Maybe 3s, MAYBE, because Jordan got better as time went on.

And? Kobe's efficiency was just fine. A hair below Jordan's. The only reason is loooks much lower is cause he took alot more 3s than Jordan (3.9 per game vs. 1.7). When you break down the efficiency numbers, you'll see its alot closer than the raw fg% shows.

2 FG%: Kobe = 48.3% Jordan = 51.0%
3 FG%: Kobe = 33.5% Jordan = 32.7% (the years jordan shot 40% from 3 is when the line was closer, when it got pushed back his % fell back)
FT%: Kobe = 83.8% Jordan = 83.5%

TS%: Kobe = 55.5% Jordan = 56.9%

TS% combines two point field goals percentage, three point field goal percentage, and free throw percentage for a more accurate description of a player's scoring efficiency. You might put alot of stock into a 1.4% difference, but just consider that Magic Johnson's TS% was 61.0%. If Jordan was so much more efficient than Kobe because he shot 1.4% better, then Magic must be a God compared to Jordan considering the 4.1% difference.
 

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In 2014, Nobody wants to play with Kobe...

Someone like Kevin Love, who should want to play for the Lakers, may sign a long term deal to play in Cleveland......think about that for a minute :lolbron:
 

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In 2014, Nobody wants to play with Kobe...

Someone like Kevin Love, who should want to play for the Lakers, may sign a long term deal to play in Cleveland......think about that for a minute :lolbron:

Thought about it, didn't give a fukk. Neg rep for making me waste a thought. :scustverson:
 

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Whoa whoa, are you saying Jordan isn't better than lebron now or that Kobe is better than everyone else except lebron? Either way, I think you should re-consider your claims that you don't even "fukk with lebron like that" cuz you sound like a straight up bron stanley. And your "Jordan hates lebron" excuse has been used ad nauseum but truth is Jordan always looked at Kobe as the son he never had. He don't fukk with lebron cuz he gettin souped up to his level with hardly the same level of skill or heart. lebron and that busted ass jumper wouldn't of survived the west he should be glad he feasted on a shyt conference all these years.

Stopping Kobe in his prime was a team effort, all it takes to stop lebron is boris diaw. Get this bum ass nikka the fukk outta here tell em to get his weight up tryna compare to the one shooting gawd. :russ:

I don't give a fukk about Lebron, believe me. But I'm not just gonna agree with Kobe stans who spew out bullshyt. Yall nikkas run in packs I see.
 

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In 2014, Nobody wants to play with Kobe...

Someone like Kevin Love, who should want to play for the Lakers, may sign a long term deal to play in Cleveland......think about that for a minute :lolbron:

Kevin Love has been trying to play with the Lakers. Peter Vecsey just wrote a column saying that Love wants LA but he is scared of Jim Buss. Only reason Love would go to Cleveland is because he hates Minnesota.
 

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Kevin Love has been trying to play with the Lakers. Peter Vecsey just wrote a column saying that Love wants LA but he is scared of Jim Buss. Only reason Love would go to Cleveland is because he hates Minnesota.

Do u really believe that :what:

Im sure he would love Cleveland if her hates Minnesota :comeon:
 

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I don't give a fukk about Lebron, believe me. But I'm not just gonna agree with Kobe stans who spew out bullshyt. Yall nikkas run in packs I see.

:wtf: are you talkin about lebron is your man 100 grand breh breh. :wtfdylan:

You just ain't realize it yet, but you're definitely a lebron stan. It's all good, you're completely misguided in your ways but it is what it is not everyone was a witness to the one shooting gawd(pbuh). :bishop:
 

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LOL dudes here hate bean so much they becoming delusional. Only on the coli 2-3 finals record btter than 5-2. only on coli the opinions of NBA players past and present means nothing compared to fat cacs who never played sports
 
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