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Wiggins game is made for the NBA. He'll walk in tomorrow and be the best athlete on the floor from day 1. All he needs is to tighten up the dribble and become better at absorbing contact in the paint rather than shying away from it. If he does, he'll be one of the best players in the history of the league. He's got the skills its just about fulfilling his promise.

How much better would he look than if Gerald Green played a year at Kansas with a marquee big?

Not saying he will be the same or worse than Green, but Green was easily the best athlete in the draft. That doesnt mean shyt.
 

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@Swagnificent is putting on a shytty clinic right now, and this is coming from someone that thinks Wiggins does have star potential.

But, this dude is essentially saying Wiggins will be the best ever, and there's no chance he could falter :dead: This dude needs to be banned from talking about the draft.
 

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How much better would he look than if Gerald Green played a year at Kansas with a marquee big?

Not saying he will be the same or worse than Green, but Green was easily the best athlete in the draft. That doesnt mean shyt.
RIght, now...I still think Wiggins will eventually become a star in the NBA. He's extremely athletic and his shooting mechanics aren't going to need tons of work. That's a great place to start. Guys less talented than him like OJ Mayo and DeRozan are still capable of scoring 20+ppg a game. He's going to do that fairly quickly IMO. His play on defense is also great at a young age.

But saying he's a much better prospect than today's MVP, who was a top prospect in both HS and college and has proven himself to be one of the most talented perimeter players we've seen in the past 20 years or so(along with Jordan, Kobe, Wade, and Bron) is ignorant.
 

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injuries could derail him like they did Rose and McGrady. he could also be complacent like Vince Carter, since I'm not sure I see the same dog in him to be great that I saw in Kobe.

but if he wants to be GREAT, there will be no stopping him. He'll be one of the best this game has ever seen. All you needed to do was watch him play this past season at Kansas. The flashes of brilliance he exhibited are stuff you simply can't teach.
I didnt get to see him enough... his first step is vicious though, which is one of the more important qualities a perimeter player can have
 

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@Swagnificent is putting on a shytty clinic right now, and this is coming from someone that thinks Wiggins does have star potential.

But, this dude is essentially saying Wiggins will be the best ever, and there's no chance he could falter :dead: This dude needs to be banned from talking about the draft.
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Right, now...I still think Wiggins will eventually become a star in the NBA. He's extremely athletic and his shooting mechanics aren't going to need tons of work. That's a great place to start. Guys less talented than him like OJ Mayo and DeRozan are still capable of scoring 20+ppg a game. He's going to do that fairly quickly IMO. His play on defense is also great at a young age.

But saying he's a much better prospect than today's MVP, who was a top prospect in both HS and college and has proven himself to be one of the most talented perimeter players we've seen in the past 20 years or so(along with Jordan, Kobe, Wade, and Bron) is ignorant.

Oh yeah. Im on the same page as you. Im not completely sold on him being a 20 ppg guy quick, but I could see it. I think he needs to put on a little bit more of lean muscle. In any event, he still needs a good amount of work and is far from a "sure-fire" potential MVP candidate and consistent all-star. That's not to say he couldn't, but it is far from a guarantee. Durant was an absolute sure-thing.

Im just saying, as a hypothetical, how would Gerald Green have looked and been projected if he went to a marquee school for a year in this year's climate?
 

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maaaan....if I was at this combine...I'd be sprinting thru everything...dunking EVERYTHING....Some of these kids just don't get it...
 
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Didn't say it was. But to say he's a much better prospect than Durant is stupid. It really is.

Especially considering Durant's height, ballhandling skills, and shooting ability, all of which have been on full display for years now. Durant put up a 32/8/5 season this year. That's an all-time great season for perimeter player. Wiggins might be great eventually but I'll hold on him achieving something like that.

Please. Durant's ballhandling was one of his biggest weakness coming into the league. He struggled his rookie year because he couldn't really put the ball on the floor against NBA caliber perimeter defenders. The guy killed college cause he was a 6'10" dude with a 7'5" wingspan that could shoot the lights out. He was a mediocre athlete and was pressed for his weak upper body strength.

Durant really only started improving his ballhandling in his 2nd season and it only became sublime the past couple. People need to stop with this revisionist history. There were ALOT of holes in KD's game coming into the league. There were dudes projecting him as a bust. Hell there were many calling him a bust his rookie year cause he barely shot 40% and was on the worst team in the league for two consecutive seasons.

Durant has improved IMMENSELY since coming into the league. And I always thought he would. Thats why when nikkas were shytting on him his rookie year, I was one of the few defending him. Stop with the revisionist history.

And I expect Wiggins to also keep improving. He's only 19 years old. Stop thinking about these kids as finished products. Look at them moreso for what they can become rather than what they are.
 
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@Swagnificent is putting on a shytty clinic right now, and this is coming from someone that thinks Wiggins does have star potential.

But, this dude is essentially saying Wiggins will be the best ever, and there's no chance he could falter :dead: This dude needs to be banned from talking about the draft.

I said a couple of posts before you said this that injuries and complacency could hurt him. He could become the next McGrady that never lives up to his potential based on injuries. Or he could be come Vince Carter and simply not have that dog in him to be great. But I think he's more of a LeBron type personality. He may not have natural killer instict, but I think he can develop it. Its the reason why he always shows up big when he plays other big time players.

But if we're talking straight basketball skills. The guy is once in a generation. 6'8" with a 7 foot wingspan. Quickness of a young Michael Jordan and leaping ability of prime Dominique Wilkins. I really don't see how someone with those physical attributes can't be great. Also his jump shot looks good. He was much better in catch and shoots than I thought he would be. I expect him to basically become Paul George AT WORST. With his ceiling being Kobe/Jordan.
 
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:what:

When did I ever say Wiggins was a finished product?

I'm done breh.

well how can you act like its blasphemous to say he'll be better than Durant? Wiggins is basically a top 5 athlete all-time already. Why should I be looked at as crazy for saying I'd take him over a gangly 6'10" jumpshooter from Texas who couldn't even lift 185lbs and didn't jump higher or run faster than Greg Oden?

this revisionist history that Durant was considered this can't miss LeBron James type prospect is PURE fantasy. There was a reason Durant was never considered to go #1 over Oden. There was a reason Durant wasn't on the cover of Sports Illustrated before he even played a college game. There's a reason everyone and their mama didn't know who Durant was 3 years before he declared for college.

Wiggins hype is based on what he can become. And we haven't seen potential like this since LeBron.
 

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#WPOTY2014 every last post by @Swagnificent in this thread, this nikka is in rare form right now.

@Ed MOTHERfukkING G you really need to step in here and see the performance this dude is putting on, he's on record saying Wiggins is the next Jordan.
He's going for that back to back title. Swagnificent got a stranglehold on the #WPOY game. :mjlol:
 
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#WPOTY2014 every last post by @Swagnificent in this thread, this nikka is in rare form right now.

@Ed MOTHERfukkING G you really need to step in here and see the performance this dude is putting on, he's on record saying Wiggins is the next Jordan.

he has the ability to. I can't analyze his heart or work ethic from my TV. what I can analyze though is that the physical package he has is something I've not seen since young Jordan. size, length, speed, quickness, leaping ability, second jump, etc.

what made Kobe and Jordan great was not simply physical attributes but also their obsessive almost psychotic determination to be the best. I hope Wiggins has it but that is my only question.
 

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Wiggins handle is HORRIBLE at the moment :scusthov:

Thats one thing that if you dont have it by now its hard to become elite in.

He does have everything else that you would want in an elite wing though. But a weak handle is the #1 thing that stopped alot of great wings from being special.

SO until he at least becomes average in that I'm not trying to hear all this Kobe MJ talk
 
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