2014: The Year in Science

[Poitier]

More science illiterate retards


If you can't even bother to read what these articles actually say before making your dumb ass theories and generalizations about "existence"

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

But as it appears, we can have some control over our stimuli. Deciding on what to believe, and curbing certain instincts...this in turn translates to the complexity of our consciousness. So it'd be interesting to see how this ability relates to the way our neurons work, if at all.

this doesn't change anything what i'm saying.

its STILL a response to stimuli, even if you can alter some aspects of it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

yes and the conscious control of those responses is consciousness...

nah, not really

Whats the difference between taking mind altering drugs that affect neuronal transmission and...self inflicting changes in stimuli?

 

[Poitier]

Whats the difference between taking mind altering drugs that affect neuronal transmission and...self inflicting changes in stimuli?

 

[Propaganda]

that's a lot of cac technosorcery

 

[Claudex]

this doesn't change anything what i'm saying.

its STILL a response to stimuli, even if you can alter some aspects of it.

Then most likely I'm asking the wrong question then. Now, I wonder what's the closest animals to us in terms of neurons and how much different we are from them. Heck, I wonder how we developed the most neurons in the first place.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Then most likely I'm asking the wrong question then. Now, I wonder what's the closest animals to us in terms of neurons and how much different we are from them. Heck, I wonder how we developed the most neurons in the first place.

I don't know the answer to this, but I think its somewhat hard to presume that the number of neurons de facto relates to how complex the species is. At least between closely related species.

 

[Claudex]

I don't know the answer to this, but I think its somewhat hard to presume that the number of neurons de facto relates to how complex the species is. At least between closely related species.

So then what is our complexity due to exactly? I think that question is the basing for mine and @LeyeT 's musings.

 

[Poitier]

Heck, I wonder how we developed the most neurons in the first place.

Protein.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So then what is our complexity due to exactly? I think that question is the basing for mine and @LeyeT 's musings.

complexity is a weird thing because it doesn't necessarily mean "more able" or "better" as many times, other species just have varying degrees of their OWN complexity

I just think its useful to not use the human experience as the standard in that regard

 

[HideoKojima]

Stem Cell research been making breakthroughs all year round. Beautiful. But cats are too stupid and think it has something to do with aborted fetuses

 

[OsO]

nah, not really

Whats the difference between taking mind altering drugs that affect neuronal transmission and...self inflicting changes in stimuli?

what is your definition of consciousness?

all human beings possess consciousness according to this definition:

con·scious·ness
ˈkän(t)SHəsnəs/
noun

1. the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings.
   "she failed to regain consciousness and died two days later"
   • the awareness or perception of something by a person.
     plural noun: consciousnesses
     "her acute consciousness of Mike's presence"
   • the fact of awareness by the mind of itself and the world.
     "consciousness emerges from the operations of the brain

 

[Claudex]

Protein.

As in a better food processor within our bodies?

 

[Claudex]

complexity is a weird thing because it doesn't necessarily mean "more able" or "better" as many times, other species just have varying degrees of their OWN complexity

I just think its useful to not use the human experience as the standard in that regard

Good point, I do often find myself in awe of other creature's complexities. I definitely wouldn't say humans are better, but we most certainly are quite different from everything else around the planet...at least from what I've gathered in my life so far. I guess that's why I wonder why that's so...but oh well, eventually I'll find the answers I'm looking for. Until then one just has to keep on

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

what is your definition of consciousness?

all human beings possess consciousness according to this definition:

con·scious·ness
ˈkän(t)SHəsnəs/
noun

1. the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings.
   "she failed to regain consciousness and died two days later"
   • the awareness or perception of something by a person.
     plural noun: consciousnesses
     "her acute consciousness of Mike's presence"
   • the fact of awareness by the mind of itself and the world.
     "consciousness emerges from the operations of the brain

Just because words are in dictionaries doesn't mean they maintain their relevance with the latest science.

So, my definition of consciousness for 99% of people who aren't introspective enough to understand that there isn't a "mind" unit may align with what you've posted, but it doesn't mean that in the raw nature of what we're talking about that such a thing may even exist.