2020 Democratic National Convention Discussion Thread (August 17-20)
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Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Miss me with that vote for Biden shyt. We all know Biden is the better choice than the racist wannabe dictator and I’m voting for him.
Now, what is Biden going to do or want to do on...
Jobs
Criminal justice reform
income inequality
healthcare
labor
wages
Big tech
racial injustice
tax rates
Wall street
China
The Middle East
Student loans
Policing
campaign financing
trade
wages
marijuana
education
climate change
If I got satisfactory answers on those, I’ll stop. I haven’t so fukk him. We’re in times that require transformational reform of institutions and he seems completely tone deaf to that.
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Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
What’s funny? You asked for policy stances and that link is Biden’s platform defined
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Except they’re not. That’s the point of the criticism. He offers nothing in terms of substantive reform of any pressing issue.
Put down your stan pom poms. What in any of that vague shyt on his website is actually an adequate response to the institutional problems facing this country that’ll actually better lives for working people in a meaningful way?
He’s already backing away from even the public option in Obamacare under pressure from the healthcare lobby. Now there’re talking about making “tweaks” to the ACA. Smh.
When asked for policy details, someone in this thread said he promised to not cut SS and Medicare.
I guess that’s the standard we’re holding Democrats to in 2020. Meanwhile his top economic guy Kaufman is guaranteeing “entitlement reform.”
thatrapsfan
Superstar
Hes proposing an identical minimum wage increase to Bernie, free college for kids from families making under $125K, expanding public option, huge spending commitments on schooling, huge spending commitment on housing, on the environment this was just a month ago:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/politics/biden-climate-plan.html?referringSource=articleShare
Biden Announces $2 Trillion Climate Plan
You can retort these are just empty commitments that he won’t stick to, which is fine, and can only be proven by time, but the idea he has nothing to offer on what you listed above is simply false.
thatrapsfan
Superstar
It makes perfect sense, because the pro Biden line was always been that he’s the safe and perfect candidate to beat Trump. Response to that the line was that he has dementia, would be destroyed in the campaign and debates, and that the Dems have thrown the election. Now that a victory appears all but certain the former claims have all but disappeared.
the cac mamba
Veteran
it sounds like you're more comfortable with bernie lying to you about things he would never accomplish, than biden give you a reasonable vision of what we can accomplish in a democracyExcept they’re not. That’s the point of the criticism. He offers nothing in terms of substantive reform of any pressing issue.
Put down your stan pom poms. What in any of that vague shyt on his website is actually an adequate response to the institutional problems facing this country that’ll actually better lives for working people in a meaningful way?
He’s already backing away from even the public option in Obamacare under pressure from the healthcare lobby. Now there’re talking about making “tweaks” to the ACA. Smh.
When asked for policy details, someone in this thread said he promised to not cut SS and Medicare.
NaijaProdigy Redux
Veteran
Damn Biden knocked that speech out of the park. It helped that expectations were low.
Even Fox had to fall back.
Even Fox had to fall back.
Miles Davis
Prince of Darkness
@Secure Da Bag
On June 27, 2019, viewers of the second night of the first round of the Democratic presidential debates enjoyed what appeared to be a light diversion. There were 10 candidates crowded onstage, including the future presidential and vice-presidential nominees, and they tended to get in each other’s way. Amid the confusion and early campaign fumbling, the most entertaining figure was the longshot candidate and bestselling author Marianne Williamson, who combined a startling boldness—”The Democratic party should be on the side of reparations for slavery”—with some fuzzy-seeming spiritual poetic rhetoric, in a way that sounded wholly out of place.
Her closing remarks, in particular, were nothing like what anybody else was saying:
I’m sorry we haven’t talked more tonight about how we’re going to beat Donald Trump. I have an idea about Donald Trump. Donald Trump is not going to be beaten just by insider politics talk. He’s not going to be beaten just by somebody who has plans. He’s going to be beaten by somebody who has an idea of what this man has done. This man has reached into the psyche of the American people and he’s harnessed fear for political purposes. So, Mr. President, if you’re listening, I want you to hear me please. You have harnessed fear for political purposes and only love can cast that out. So, I, sir, I have a feeling you know what you’re doing. I’m going to harness love for political purposes. I will meet you on that field and sir, love will win.
It was oddly stirring, but self-evidently kooky. Not something you’d hear from a real, professional politician. The campaign season carried on, and Williamson, as expected, got bumped off the stage when the debate qualifying rules tightened up. The more normal candidates, with their more normal messages about legislative records and policy proposals, took over. It was time to be serious about the election.
Thirteen months after that debate, Joe Biden gave his speech accepting the Democratic nomination for president, as the overwhelming choice of the voters and the party establishment. He opened by warning the viewers that the president “has cloaked America in darkness for much too long. Too much anger. Too much fear. Too much division.” Twenty-some minutes later, he circled back to that image for his grand conclusion:
With passion and purpose, let us begin—you and I together, one nation, under God—united in our love for America and united in our love for each other.
For love is more powerful than hate.
Hope is more powerful than fear.
Light is more powerful than dark.
This is our moment.
This is our mission.
May history be able to say that the end of this chapter of American darkness began here tonight as love and hope and light joined in the battle for the soul of the nation.
And this is a battle that we, together, will win.
I promise you.
Marianne Williamson’s message is what the Democrats are carrying into November.
Call her crazy, a kook, and bat shyt fukking insane. But she was on the fukking money when it came to racism and this country. shyt won’t get better until we really tackle it.
That was a good speech by Joe though, I’m glad the anger has washed away. I just want the senate so we can really start moving.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
After months of being told Biden can't tie two sentences together....he came out and knocked it out the park. That sounded like Obama laced him with lines and coached him how to nail the performance (the strength, hand movements, pointing, etc). And thank god he talked specifics about his COVID plan.
Lets go.
Lets go.
He did but Joe didn't need Obama's help with this one. Put some respect on that man. He's made good speeches before.
NaijaProdigy Redux
Veteran
Good lord I hope Scranton Joe takes it back to 2008 / 2012 during the debates...dude was a vicious debater 
Yeah Joe and his team were more than capable of writing that. It was clearly “him” in that moment.