King Kreole
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Why does she lie so much?
For no good reason.
Elizabeth Warren: Yesterday afternoon I ate a sandwich.
Y'all: Actually, we have footage of you eating at exactly 11:59AM. You are a pathological liar, ma'am.
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Elizabeth Warren: Yesterday afternoon I ate a sandwich.
Y'all: Actually, we have footage of you eating at exactly 11:59AM. You are a pathological liar, ma'am.
Th3G3ntleman
Superstar
This is fukking facts right here. Any white folk using the term identity politics in 2019 might as well have a white hood on
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
So you believe her when she says her campaign doesn’t do internal polls and she gets all her public opinion data from the media?Elizabeth Warren: Yesterday afternoon I ate a sandwich.
Y'all: Actually, we have footage of you eating at exactly 11:59AM. You are a pathological liar, ma'am.
So 28%?
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Warren's campaign has been widely reported to not utilize outside polling and places the least emphasis on polling out of all the candidates in the race. That's obviously an overall thematic, strategic decision for her campaign, and that's what she's referring to with her first response. The question was posed to her about the campaign doing any internal polling and she said she doesn't know, so unless you have evidence of Warren knowing of internal polling her team has conducted, calling her an outright liar is very weird, bordering on obsessive. She gets far more scrutiny than any other candidate, but that's the nature of the game, I get it. Ultimately, I don't really care that much if her Primary campaign team is doing internal polling or not. The most likely scenario to me is that her data team is probably doing internal polling and her campaign leadership is isolating her from them so as to not dilute her message or let those results creep into her mind. I see absolutely no reason to assume she's lying about knowing of internal polling unless you have some weird ax to grind against Elizabeth Warren.
Also, I think it's telling that all the top responses to that tweet calling her a pathological liar are all from people with Bernie in their twitter bios but that's none of my business
This is fukking facts right here. Any white folk using the term identity politics in 2019 might as well have a white hood on
True, but then it's even more alarming that Bernie coming off of a heart attack seems healthier than BidenFrankly Bernie having a heart attack is more alarming than Biden stuttering or going off on a crazy rant
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
So you think a presidential primary upper-tier candidate doesn’t have internal polling, or they do but the candidate doesn’t know about it?Warren's campaign has been widely reported to not utilize outside polling and places the least emphasis on polling out of all the candidates in the race. That's obviously an overall thematic, strategic decision for her campaign, and that's what she's referring to with her first response. The question was posed to her about the campaign doing any internal polling and she said she doesn't know, so unless you have evidence of Warren knowing of internal polling her team has conducted, calling her an outright liar is very weird, bordering on obsessive. She gets far more scrutiny than any other candidate, but that's the nature of the game, I get it. Ultimately, I don't really care that much if her Primary campaign team is doing internal polling or not. The most likely scenario to me is that her data team is probably doing internal polling and her campaign leadership is isolating her from them so as to not dilute her message or let those results creep into her mind. I see absolutely no reason to assume she's lying about knowing of internal polling unless you have some weird ax to grind against Elizabeth Warren.
Also, I think it's telling that all the top responses to that tweet calling her a pathological liar are all from people with Bernie in their twitter bios but that's none of my business
Could’ve fooled me with all her reactionary M4A juelzing.
I guess that's why he leads among young women of color and latinos. The guy's marijuana legaliziation plan is written to make sure minority groups affected by the drug war gets first dibs.
Sanders doesn't shyt on issues related to people of color, he's just good at talking about the commonalities of multiple grouos by discussing class struggle.
Having a Deval Patrick or Kamala Harris act as an avatar for establishment politics is not enough anymore for people feeling that structural change is needed.
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
So you think a presidential primary upper-tier candidate doesn’t have internal polling, or they do but the candidate doesn’t know about it?
Selective isolation of the candidate from information is a pretty widely-employed practice. A primary function of a campaign staff is to filter information to the candidate.
Warren's filter is just set very finely. But again, if you're starting from the presupposition that Warren is a nefarious actor, then almost any anti-Warren take becomes justifiable and strange narratives begin to present themselves.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Same...i don’t know if “not trump” is as big of a motivator as coastal cites and the Twitterverse want to make it seem. And of the top candidates/
I don’t see sanders bringing over the moderates/centrists
I don’t see Pete motivating the youth, progressives or people of color
I don’t see youth falling behind Biden, but I do think older progressives might suck it up just to get trump out
Liz seemed best positioned to bridge the two, but both sides have attacked her for not being centrist/progressive enough thus both sides have damaged her. I objectively think she would’ve been the best hope in appealing to both sides of the base.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Selective isolation of the candidate from information is a pretty widely-employed practice. A primary function of a campaign staff is to filter information to the candidate.
Warren's filter is just set very finely. But again, if you're starting from the presupposition that Warren is a nefarious actor, then almost any anti-Warren take becomes justifiable and strange narratives begin to present themselves.
Impressive hypothetical rationalization. Fact is all presidential campaigns use internal polling. Liz messaging, verbiage, slogans, the way she speaks about M4A, her decision to have that event with Angela Rye and all those black female celebrities, the thing at Spellman, etc. all are decisions that factor in internal polling I’m sure.
Anyway she had that same deer in headlights look she gets when she’s searching for the right answer instead of just saying the truth. She knows her campaign uses internal polling and it’s foolish to suggest she doesn’t.
Bernies got way more youth on his side than warren.
warren fans are people who are centrists/progressives. Believing they need to give in somewhat to attract the other side.
A pragmatic revolutionary approach sounds good on paper, but can never be executed.
One guy said he could do it bc black ppl cleared the way for him...
no one stays on code with warren. She has no true base, only ppl hoping they can be
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
You literally wrote a bunch of words and said exactly nothing. Congrats!Bernies got way more youth on his side than warren.
warren fans are people who are centrists/progressives. Believing they need to give in somewhat to attract the other side.
A pragmatic revolutionary approach sounds good on paper, but can never be executed.
One guy said he could do it bc black ppl cleared the way for him...
no one stays on code with warren. She has no true base, only ppl hoping they can be
