Mook

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Corporate interests and Black issues aren't mutually exclusive.

You can not put black politicians in the same box as white ones when it comes to the corporate money they receive. Alot African American house members wouldn't be able to campaign without corporate dollars because they represent poorer black districts. Their constituents cant support them monetarily as other candidates could.

Thats why the Collective Pac The Collective PAC | Fighting for Equal Representation a black owned superpac is against progressive Democrats eliminating Super Pacs. We rely on that money to bring our issues to the forefront.

Too many progressive voters on this forum, think black politicians should mirror what white progressive candidates do. No corporate money, no pacs etc. Maybe 2-3 black candidates can pull that off, the rest sadly can not.

We have to start thinking of progressive policies from a Black viewpoint instead of a Monolithic white one. If you all continue to just believe in what white progressive candidates tell you what to think, "what's fair", "what represents the middle class" you guys are going to vote for positions that will kill movements any black candidates will have.

You're killing the movement without even realizing it, it's scary to read what some of the "progressive" people in here post, while not understanding how it will negatively impact Black politicians representing black populations.

We don't always fit in the box the progressive white liberals say everyone should.


Arguing pro corporate money. I have seen it all. :dead:
 

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Actually Kamala can’t. She can’t sit in the SIT room with the President and understand what it takes to make those type of decisions. She can’t speak for the President, She can’t assume control of the Presidency if the current President becomes incapacitated, so no, she can’t do what a VP does.
You're going overboard with it breh. Calm down.

I would choose to be U.S. Senator from California over being VP pretty much any day.
 

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i wish more black men would recognize this, feels like many black men want black women to just care about their black struggle and not voice frustration with/fight back against their struggle as women, specifically the double edge sword of being a black woman, as well.
You should make a thread about this in TLR. :troll:
 
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The lies about Harris will be proven in the post-mortem. These online a$$holes are vicious.

They weren't lies Nap. Any Black man in California will tell you how bad Copmala was as an AG. Especially how she had truant parents arrested. And kept drug offenders in jail for cheap labor. I couldn't see how Kamala didn't think her record was going to be put on blast running for President.


 

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They weren't lies Nap. Any Black man in California will tell you how bad Copmala was as an AG. Especially how she had truant parents arrested. And kept drug offenders in jail for cheap labor. I couldn't see how Kamala didn't think her record was going to be put on blast running for President.



no one went to jail.

she was encouraging school attendance.
 

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How am I going overboard just by proving you wrong? I rather be VP over senator any day. Better Perks and better Pay, and no traffic when I come through.
You didn't prove me wrong lol.

Senators can meet with world leaders, VP's don't know what it's like to be the President unless they become one (no one does), Senators can most definitely advocate for and speak for the President, Senators obviously can break a tie vote. The only thing that a Senator can't do is fill in for the President. That's it.

Vice Presidents were pretty much completely irrelevant until Walter Mondale. Jimmy Carter gave Mondale more responsibilities than previous VPs had and that has continued to the point where the VP is now the President's closest advisor. However, VPs are still overall meaningless. The VP can't direct anybody in the executive branch to do anything. The VP can't actually vote on legislation in the Senate unless there is a tie (which rarely happens) even though they are "President of the Senate". The most they can do is tour the world to advocate for the President's policy goals. Senators can do that as well.
 

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As a woman. If a black woman gets the nomination at a later date. Do u think a sizeable percentage of black men won’t vote for her?

My theory is that they won’t and it’ll show the extreme sexism within our community, but I’d like to hear from ur perspective.
depends on what you think a sizable percentage is. i think dems get 85-90% of the BM vote and I'd expect that to hold.
 

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depends on what you think a sizable percentage is. i think dems get 85-90% of the BM vote and I'd expect that to hold.
There is 0 evidence of black men not voting for a black woman. Abrams has strong black male support. It’s not a question of us voting for a woman, it’s if BM show up at all.
 
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