the cac mamba
Veteran
i can't believe anyone is seriously talking about this
all it will take is one tweet from trump
and pete's campaign is over. dude has no business running in 2020
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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all it will take is one tweet from trump
and pete's campaign is over. dude has no business running in 2020
i can't believe anyone is seriously talking about this
all it will take is one tweet from trump
and pete's campaign is over. dude has no business running in 2020
Nah that would backfire
the cac mamba
Veteran
no, it wouldnt
i'm sure don lemon would be really outraged about it. meanwhile the rest of america would silently agree with it at the ballot boxwe're not there yet
and fukk mayor pete anyway. he's a mayor
of a small town, and he can't even control that. fukk is this dude doing running for president?Secure Da Bag
Veteran
The party is trying to get to the left of Clinton. Establishment Dems ain't letting go.
ok genuine question. Why do you think the party isn’t to the left of Clinton currently
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
Between Obama, Booker, Kamala, Pete, Amy, and Biden, the party seems very much neoliberal/centrist. Just like Clinton (both) was.
Why do you think the party is to the left of Clinton now?
Why do you think the party is to the left of Clinton now?
more pro regulation on banking/consumer financing, openly anti war.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
I don't see Clinton being any different after the Great Recession.
I get where your coming fromBecause the center of the party has moved leftward on social issues. On economic issues, Obamacare has moved the party further left as well. There’s also been a tougher push towards banking regulation whereas Clinton pushed for deregulation. State-wide you are seeing pushes to raise the minimum wage, push for gender pay equity and more affordable college/housing. The party has shifted but the people in control at the top are much harder to move.
I see we're back to using neoliberal incorrectly again. Gotta dish out some negs.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
I don't think Clinton was to the right of those issues. Clinton was just willing to compromise on those issues more easily. That was being pragmatic for him. Hillary Clinton to get Universal Healthcare passed (thru her husband of course) but it didn't take. The House was run by Gingrich and new GOP. MW wasn't gonna be raised no matter how much Clinton wanted it.
Now the base. The base has certainly moved to the left. But the politicians, not nearly as much. When I say the party, I mean the politicians not the base.
yes, actual dems.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Continue to skip around avoiding providing any proof the party hasn’t moved right...Wait you think Reagan Democrats are called that bc they aligned of his liberal/left policies?
Jesus christ man
Reagan Democrats are dems that left bc they had more conservative social values that aligned with Reagans social values.
