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California been on a march to $15/hr before Bernie was a thing, and there has been a march toward that path across the nation, and yes, Bernie has been a vocal supporter, as have many others, Climate change has been a popular cause prior to him as well, but Bernie invented this all as opposed to being a participant and guest
Lazy goalpost movement

Now he has to invent climate change to champion it? Even though the rest of the 2020 field is still brushing it off in comparison?
 

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California been on a march to $15/hr before Bernie was a thing, and there has been a march toward that path across the nation, and yes, Bernie has been a vocal supporter, as have many others, Climate change has been a popular cause prior to him as well, but Bernie invented this all as opposed to being a participant and guest

Wait, no, that’s not the idea here at all. Bernie isn’t the inventor he’s just the voice right now. His slogan is literally “not me, us” because the whole point is that he’s not the movement. He’s a part of it and pushing it forward. I know it all gets dressed up in hella romanticized language. But many of the left are like me, been in it since occupy Wall Street or even longer. The progress is slow but the impacts are real.

An offshoot of occupy has been purchasing and forgiving student loan debt for years. The debt forgiveness that Warren and sanders both support is something we’ve tried.

It’s been a lot of that, push for something locally and then hope the results warrant expanding the plan. The language and success has gotten us to a point where student loan debt forgiveness is part of major candidates’ platforms (and this isn’t about whether people like or dislike that policy, just an example of what frame of mind that rhetoric comes from).
 

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Wait, no, that’s not the idea here at all. Bernie isn’t the inventor he’s just the voice right now. His slogan is literally “not me, us” because the whole point is that he’s not the movement. He’s a part of it and pushing it forward. I know it all gets dressed up in hella romanticized language. But many of the left are like me, been in it since occupy Wall Street or even longer. The progress is slow but the impacts are real.

An offshoot of occupy has been purchasing and forgiving student loan debt for years. The debt forgiveness that Warren and sanders both support is something we’ve tried.

It’s been a lot of that, push for something locally and then hope the results warrant expanding the plan. The language and success has gotten us to a point where student loan debt forgiveness is part of major candidates’ platforms (and this isn’t about whether people like or dislike that policy, just an example of what frame of mind that rhetoric comes from).
There a big difference between what you’ve posted


And what Bernie says is the way he’ll push his platform through without the support of congress...some marching and rioting in the street for M4A...I’m just like that should be a movement today if that’s what y’all want. I should see it every day like I saw occupy. Most I see are hashtags
 

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:lolbron: He's got a point. Whenever Bernie's down in polls, he's a selfish b*stard who is hurting the presumptive nominee yet when he leads while the other candidates are floundering, yall don't keep that same energy.

So now Liz's supporters aren't affluent white women anymore?

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What? Not sure how this relates to my post at all
You created a fantasy. Warren supporters haven't told sanders to drop out in any meaningful contingent.

It's been proven that their bases don't overlap.

Yet he we are listening to y'all throwing up this dishonest argument
 

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There a big difference between what you’ve posted


And what Bernie says is the way he’ll push his platform through without the support of congress...some marching and rioting in the street for M4A...I’m just like that should be a movement today if that’s what y’all want. I should see it every day like I saw occupy. Most I see are hashtags

A European style protest would make even the American military fall back. :whoa: I'm talking 3 to 5 million people storming DC all angry and pissed, ready to burn every corrupt establishment down.
 

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HuffPost is now a part of Verizon Media

Don’t know why the link appears like it does, but Joe Biden was making some wild statements to the NYT were about black parents and education in the article.

Where are the Biden Boyz?

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In a long and often rambling interview with The New York Times published Friday, former Vice President Joe Biden responded to a question about the legacy of racism by blaming Black parents for the racial achievement gap.


In the third 2020 Democratic presidential debate, held in September, Biden had said that one way America could address the legacy of slavery and segregation was by bridging the “word gap” between white and Black children. “A kid coming from a very poor school, a very poor background, will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time we get there,” Biden said. He then recommended that Black parents play records at night to “make sure that kids hear words.”


The New York Times editorial board pressed Biden on these claims and asked him to elaborate on how solving the word gap would address the legacy of slavery. Biden began his answer by noting that former President Barack Obama had also been criticized for advising Black parents to take more responsibility for raising children. He then suggested that America could do more to help minority parents “provide more guidance and better guidance for themselves and their families.”
 
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HuffPost is now a part of Verizon Media

Don’t know why the link appears like it does, but Joe Biden was making some wild statements to the NYT were about black parents and education in the article.

Where are the Biden Boyz?

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In a long and often rambling interview with The New York Times published Friday, former Vice President Joe Biden responded to a question about the legacy of racism by blaming Black parents for the racial achievement gap.


In the third 2020 Democratic presidential debate, held in September, Biden had said that one way America could address the legacy of slavery and segregation was by bridging the “word gap” between white and Black children. “A kid coming from a very poor school, a very poor background, will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time we get there,” Biden said. He then recommended that Black parents play records at night to “make sure that kids hear words.”


The New York Times editorial board pressed Biden on these claims and asked him to elaborate on how solving the word gap would address the legacy of slavery. Biden began his answer by noting that former President Barack Obama had also been criticized for advising Black parents to take more responsibility for raising children. He then suggested that America could do more to help minority parents “provide more guidance and better guidance for themselves and their families.”

Biden boys probably agree

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