2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Pressure]

Can you trust Biden on this when he has advocated for social security cuts for nearly 30 years?

I think Joe Biden doesn't have ideological commitments and I view him like Trump. He's going to sign what comes across his desk and take credit for it.

If Dems retake the senate a Biden presidency could look very nice in his first couple of years and he will fulfill his goal of restoring order in government. Lots of debates, compromises between the different dem factions and all that.

The only two things he seems to be committed to which is a compromise in itself is his tax reform and salvaging the ACA. Whatever that means

 

[mastermind]

I think Joe Biden doesn't have ideological commitments and I view him like Trump. He's going to sign what comes across his desk and take credit for it.

If Dems retake the senate a Biden presidency could look very nice in his first couple of years and he will fulfill his goal of restoring order in government. Lots of debates, compromises between the different dem factions and all that.

The only two things he seems to be committed to which is a compromise in itself is his tax reform and salvaging the ACA. Whatever that means

I think that’s unfair to think Biden is like Trump. Unlike Trump, he has a 40-year record that shows his ideology. Biden is actually educated and has a clear worldview. I also think it’s silly to say Biden will sign anything contingent on if the Dems win everything when that’s not a guarantee.

If we have it the current set up, why wouldn’t Biden side with the GOP on something like Social Security? Because he realizes how unpopular it is in this climate? He went to the right of Ronald Reagan on this issue.

Like I said before, we can’t trust Biden on Social Security and I think you know that too.

 

[Pressure]

I think that’s unfair to think Biden is like Trump. Unlike Trump, he has a 40-year record that shows his ideology. Biden is actually educated and has a clear worldview. I also think it’s silly to say Biden will sign anything contingent on if the Dems win everything when that’s not a guarantee.

If we have it the current set up, why wouldn’t Biden side with the GOP on something like Social Security? Because he realizes how unpopular it is in this climate? He went to the right of Ronald Reagan on this issue.

Like I said before, we can’t trust Biden on Social Security and I think you know that too.

I dont see a bill coming to his desk that cuts social security unless the dems lose the house.

 

[mastermind]

I dont see a bill coming to his desk that cuts social security unless the dems lose the house.

But you won’t answer my question, which is what you accused @FAH1223 of not doing.

Do you trust Biden on social security?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Breh, I've been predicting the outcome of politics since Bush's first term. I ain't been wrong yet.

Me too

 

[Pressure]

But you won’t answer my question, which is what you accused @FAH1223 of not doing.

Do you trust Biden on social security?

I already told you I don't see Joe Biden cutting social security.

I also told you I don't see a scenario where it happens.

 

[Uno]

Young Bernard’s mask off

Didn't Biden punk him on stage like 2 debates ago?

 

[SunZoo]

I’ve seen Michelle Obama speak, and best believe she doesn’t hold her tongue on the source, effect and reasons for racism in this country. So, imma roll with the non politician view on this.

How about this non-politician, keep in mind this is in the thick of one of the worst possible times for black people in this country, AFTER he helped pass historic "tangible" legislation in regards to racial disparity only to begin to pivot toward unifying the poor and working classic before getting murdered because doing so posed the biggest threat to white supremacy.



The economic problem is probably the most serious problem confronting the Negro community. And I might say the most serious problem confronting poor people generally, and I don't want to be narrow about this only talking about the black poor in our country because I must be concerned about Puerto Ricans who are poor, Mexican Americans, American Indians and Appalachian whites. And we are confronting a major depression in the poor community. And I think the time has come to bring to bare, the power of the direction action, the non-violent direct action movement on the basic economic conditions that we face all over the country. -

All these words. No mention of an actual proposal targeted specifically for African Americans.

Non violence has been a tremendous force in grappling with the social problem of legal segregation and the syndrome of deprivation surrounding that system. And of course it has been a major force in grappling with the political problem of the denial of the right to vote. But in winning victories like the civil rights bill of 64 and the voting rights bill of 1965 around the issue of segregation and voting rights, We discovered that these legislative strides did very little to improve the lot of the millions of negros in the ghettos of the north and the nation generally. In other words it did very little to penetrate the lower depths of negro deprivation and communities all over. -

Like I said...some people would rather him get better at pandering rather than stay on message about some shyt that is actually going to move the needle and open up the door for shyt like reparations and the like. They want proverbial "hope and change" within the parameters of politely racist white liberal capitalism.

 

[mastermind]

I already told you I don't see Joe Biden cutting social security.

I also told you I don't see a scenario where it happens.

Buddy, you said it with conditions that are not in his control and then said he is Donald Trump — which is a nonsensical statement.

I asked, do you trust Biden on social security. You have decided to dance around answering a yes or no question.

 

[Pressure]

Buddy, you said it with conditions that are not in his control and then said he is Donald Trump — which is a nonsensical statement.

I asked, do you trust Biden on social security. You have decided to dance around answering a yes or no question.

Joe Biden's social security expansion goes hand in hand with his tax plan.

I fully expect him to try his tax plan which has a goal of making social security solvent.

I have said 3 times that I don't think Joe Biden is going to cut social security.

And no it's not dancing around it. If Republicans win the senate and the house in 2020 we aren't going to have a Democrat as president. That's why I'm at your supposed gotcha hypothetical

 

[Pressure]

Non violence has been a tremendous force in grappling with the social problem of legal segregation and the syndrome of deprivation surrounding that system. And of course it has been a major force in grappling with the political problem of the denial of the right to vote. But in winning victories like the civil rights bill of 64 and the voting rights bill of 1965 around the issue of segregation and voting rights, We discovered that these legislative strides did very little to improve the lot of the millions of negros in the ghettos of the north and the nation generally. In other words it did very little to penetrate the lower depths of negro deprivation and communities all over. -

Like I said...some people would rather him get better at pandering rather than stay on message about some shyt that is actually going to move the needle and open up the door for shyt like reparations and the like. They want proverbial "hope and change" within the parameters of politely racist white liberal capitalism.

You didn't say shyt here.

When Bernie is asked about hispanics or immigrants he has a 4 step plan he's going to enact day one.

 

[mastermind]

I have said 3 times that I don't think Joe Biden is going to cut social security.

Still not answering my question.

Each of your posts haven’t answered whether you trust Biden with social security, and saying “he won’t cut if...” is adding stuff.

It’s a yes or no question that you won’t answer yes or no on for some reason.

 

[Pressure]

Still not answering my question.

Each of your posts haven’t answered whether you trust Biden with social security, and saying “he won’t cut if...” is adding stuff.

It’s a yes or no question that you won’t answer yes or no on for some reason.

What the fukk do I need to trust beyond him not cutting it and attempting to expand it?

SS isn't going to make any meaningful portion of my retirement anyway.

 

[the cac mamba]

Still not answering my question.

Each of your posts haven’t answered whether you trust Biden with social security, and saying “he won’t cut if...” is adding stuff.

It’s a yes or no question that you won’t answer yes or no on for some reason.

you think biden will propose cutting social security if he gets elected to what he admits is probably a fukkin four year presidency?

i'll remember that next time you call me an idiot

 

[Pressure]

Not cutting SS and expanding SS poll stronger than M4A.

That, lowering drug prices, increasing taxes on the wealthy, and "shoring up ACA" looks to be the pillars of his campaign.

Yall have me perplexed here. Joe Biden has shown no qualms this election with espousing unpopular positions. He's gone on to defend many of his terrible positions.

So I have no reason not to trust him when he says he plans to do something different than he's said in the past.

you think biden will propose cutting social security if he gets elected to what he admits is probably a fukkin four year presidency?

i'll remember that next time you call me an idiot

Crazy right