2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Bloomberg is Hillary on steroids it would force even more people to stay home and not vote. shyt Trump might fukk around and win the popular vote in that scenario.

I agree. Posted the latter sentiment tonight somewhere in HL

 

[duncanthetall]

Why would I, as someone who's donated 475 dollars to and volunteered for a progressive candidate want to form a coalition with someone like you?

Because you vote for policies and not your fragile emotions?

 

[duncanthetall]

Undercover shyt

 

[OfTheCross]

Undercover shyt

bernie bros on some ninja shyt

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

As for M4A vs. public option, you have to understand that in the real world it takes years for a shift of that magnitude. Moving left never gets done like ripping off a band-aid. It's always baby steps... always..

exactly, which is why i don't get why people get mad that some people rather campaign on the next step as opposed to the destination - especially when they (the sensible ones) admit to expecting it to be a step process

 

[jj23]

Undercover shyt

That's foul

 

[dtownreppin214]

exactly, which is why i don't get why people get mad that some people rather campaign on the next step as opposed to the destination - especially when they (the sensible ones) admit to expecting it to be a step process

My fave thing was watching the Bros foam at the mouth and shriek at Harris, Pete and Biden and even Warren moving away from M4A as disingenuous flip floppers.

Now? It’s good politics. Compromise. Position of strength.

 

[Uno Venova]

Losers? Goofies? Yesterday you were just foaming at the mouth about Warren backing Klobuchar. Today you're belittling the Warren supporters you'll need to defeat Trump.

I swear to gawd - the Bros efforts at negative persuasion are really breathtaking.

I mean, seriously - why do you want people to hate you and your candidate?

The real persuasion is done by donating, canvasing, & textbanking..have any Warren fans in this thread displayed any semblance of being able to be swayed?

Or has it been repeated swipes and insults?

The answer is the latter, so why would anyone care about trying to convince ya'll? You'll vote blue anyway.

My fave thing was watching the Bros foam at the mouth and shriek

"Why aren't you guys trying to convince me to come to your side "

 

[OfTheCross]

It would be great to see them get Bloomberg out the paint before he even begins. I don't want him anywhere near this race.

As for M4A vs. public option, you have to understand that in the real world it takes years for a shift of that magnitude. Moving left never gets done like ripping off a band-aid. It's always baby steps... always..

I dunno if that's true.

what were the baby steps before all of our major Left legislation...?

Soc Sec
Affirmative Action
FMLA
abolishing prohibition
etc.

I feel like those movements took time to build, but the legislation was done once the momentum was there.

that said, M4A movement is already mainstream..

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I dunno if that's true.

what were the baby steps before all of our major Left legislation...?

Soc Sec <-- took a historical global depression that has never been matched again, with 25% unemployment, for SS to become a thing...everyone wanted a fix
Affirmative Action <--- really?
FMLA <-- this was a step, this is unpaid leave while paid leave is where we still need to get to
abolishing prohibition <--- really again? this was reversing 13 yr ban on something that was legal once before, it also helped stop rampant crime and underground activity
etc.

I feel like those movements took time to build, but the legislation was done once the momentum was there.

that said, M4A movement is already mainstream..

the momentum is not there for M4A, there is however an appetite for a public option. nothing wrong with moving the country to the next city vs. the next state

 

[88m3]

the momentum is not there for M4A, there is however an appetite for a public option. nothing wrong with moving the country to the next city vs. the next state

There will be no incrementalism it's all or nothing! Everything is zero sum game!

 

[OfTheCross]

the momentum is not there for M4A, there is however an appetite for a public option. nothing wrong with moving the country to the next city vs. the next state

legislatively speaking, nothing came before those things, though.

Something triggers it in the real world, but I don't see a history of legislative baby steps. shyt just gets done.

But, if you want to subscribe to the baby steps theory, Obamacare was it

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

legislatively speaking, nothing came before those things, though.

Something triggers it in the real world, but I don't see a history of legislative baby steps. shyt just gets done.

But, if you want to subscribe to the baby steps theory, Obamacare was it

tons of legislation happened piece by piece from 1865 onward to equalize and rectify discrimination against blacks...really breh?

prohibition? you're really comparing reversing a law on something that was once legal as radical?

things such as SSDI preceded FMLA

and a historic catastrophe led FDR to make radical changes to help stop an economic world collapse...is that what we're in with 3.5% unemployment?

obama care was step one, public option is step two, M4A is step 3 or 4...so yes, we move in steps

 

[OfTheCross]

tons of legislation happened piece by piece from 1865 onward to equalize and rectify discrimination against blacks...really breh?

prohibition? you're really comparing reversing a law on something that was once legal as radical?

things such as SSDI preceded FMLA

and a historic catastrophe led FDR to make radical changes to help stop an economic world collapse...is that what we're in with 3.5% unemployment?

obama care was step one, public option is step two, M4A is step 3 or 4...so yes, we move in steps

Don't get hung up on the examples I gave...I was just throwing shyt out there that's considered leftist.

But SSDI, for example, started in 1956 and there was nothing that preceded it besides conversation.

We've been conversing about guaranteed healthcare for 100 years almost.

My point is that

1) M4A can get done if the political will is there and

2) I don't think that passing Left legislation has historically happened in baby steps


What are our most robust leftist policies ? I'll look em up to see

 

[FAH1223]

Some of that Yang support is going to Bernie

@dtownreppin214