2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[duncanthetall]

randoms on twitter, sir

So it wasn’t someone like Sirota or Bri? It was people that support him online? Cool.

 

[wire28]

yeah the attempt to excommunicate Warren from the progressive movement by Bernie supporters was all a dream

soon y'all gonna be telling us that the whole "Warren is a snake" episode never happened and Bernie's team was constantly bigging her up

must be Russian bots like Bernie says

when this is all over i'm going to love the case report and subsequent documentary on the mindset of these guys. its an incredible phenomenon to study from afar

 

[FAH1223]

You all need to listen to this

 

[nyknick]

yeah the attempt to excommunicate Warren from the progressive movement by Bernie supporters was all a dream

soon y'all gonna be telling us that the whole "Warren is a snake" episode never happened and Bernie's team was constantly bigging her up

just like Bernie says, it must be Russian bots causing #OnlyBernie to trend on twitter right now

Alright keep looking for things on Twitter that offend you and keep on reporting back to us.

I look forward to you discovering YouTube comments and how vulgar those are.

 

[storyteller]

It's not his fault but Obama might have the WOAT 'coaching tree'

I was expecting someone under 70 and charismatic from his administration to step up. But it looks like their biggest accomplishment was hooking up with Rashida Jones.

The back and forth between yall made me think of a medium piece I read a while back. It's got charts and images so I can't post the whole thing but here's the main thrust:

As a first generation American, I’ve always loved learning U.S. history. I use presidents to help me remember what happened when. Since 2016, I’ve been thinking about a) historical cycles, b) what Trump tells us about where we are, and c) what history tells us about where we’re going.

I started by framing elections in terms of disruptive cycles, and which presidents represented a transformational era change. The ones who defined the political conversation for the next several decades. Going backwards, it seems like the consensus is: Reagan (1980), FDR (1932), TR (~1900), Lincoln (1860), Jackson (1828), and Washington (1788).

With the era starters set, I looked at the presidents in-between. I noticed patterns in how major parties trade off control. Based on my understanding of what each president represented, I noticed some archetypes repeat. And that era duration was somewhat predictable.

I’m a tech entrepreneur, and alum of MIT, Berkeley, and McKinsey. So naturally, I used all that data to built a model in a spreadsheet. I do try to be objective, but full disclosure that I personally lean left. Here’s the model, and then I’ll explain more about Roles and Eras.

Here are the archetypes with this era starting with Reagan and ending with Trump...

• Transformer: Founder of the Era, from Party A.
• Continuer: Sidekick from Party A carrying the torch.
• Triangulator: Party B adjusting.
• Reimaginer: Party A’s second wind.
• Precursor: Party B’s next Era preview.
• Ender: Party A winding down the Era.

So Clinton is the triangulator and Obama is the Precursor. But that leaves Obama kinda caught between the two cycles with no good follow-up but also laying the groundwork for the next Transformer...I think Bernie or Warren fits that bill. It'd be Obama laying the foundation via the ACA and then Bernie or Warren taking that torch and moving into the next era with M4A playing a key role in the move left. But this is leaving out all of the meat to the article which covers multiple cycles and how different presidents fit into the roles. It's a really interesting read imo, pure speculation but fun to run through and think about...plus it implies 40 years built around a progressive winning in 2020 which is pretty fire for me.

 

[King Kreole]

Alright keep looking for things on Twitter that offend you and keep on reporting back to us.

I look forward to you discovering YouTube comments and how vulgar those are.

ok, will do sir

 

[wire28]

just like Bernie says, it must be Russian bots causing #OnlyBernie to trend on twitter right now

atleast it is under #PresidentElizabethWarren

 

[dtownreppin214]

This has more to do with money and the fact that there aren’t many candidates of color who can run as progressives and be grassroots funded like Warren and Sanders. So you end with politicians of color who don’t match the politics of the younger progressive milllennials and gen z that power Sanders/Warren and who also cannot convince wealthy white donors that they can beat a white supremacist. Booker, Castro and Kamala got squeezed out because the Obama era made older and younger Democrats take two different paths and they’re stuck in the middle.

The party would be smart to adjust this primary schedule then because polling does have an affect on fundraising. Put states like Virginia and Nevada first to give some of these minority candidates a better chance for long-term viability. If I was in party leadership, I'd feel some shame this morning that quality candidates like Harris/Booker/Castro were not on that stage last night but Bloomberg and all of his smugness was. There is something seriously wrong with this picture.

 

[R. Money]

 

[88m3]

The health records thing reminds me of the taxes thing

they kept asking him to release his taxes, he did, and there was nothing in there.

crazy how ppl care about corruption only on certain times

It's like people forgot what we're going through with Trump

 

[Uno Venova]

Her messaging changes a lot, doesn't it?

 

[SunZoo]

Her messaging changes a lot, doesn't it?

Why won't people just believe in her, she could win if you just believe.

 

[King Kreole]

it's a real race now, blood and teeth Liz coming out

 

[SunZoo]

It's funny how all of the angst directed at the Bernie or Bust crowd kinda fell to the wayside when Bloomberg stepped in like a video game boss and had people going #neverbloomberg or going from "just get Trump out" to I dunno if I could vote for ___, everybody has bridge that's too far.

Mine is subverting democracy, fukk me I suppose. Either way I'm solid, whatever p*ssy hats decide to do.

 

[dtownreppin214]

If i were a young ambitious Democrat im sitting this election out

anyone running against Trump is going to get dragged into the hell that he operates in, and its an up hill battle going against an incumbent. If you lose to Trump your career is over, if you even survive the campaign.

Not too surprising that its really only old ass candidates taking their last shot...and a dude that has no business being there.

I do believe some (like Abrams/Landrieu) made this calculation, particularly with the good economy. My counterpoint to them would be that Trump is still very unpopular and the Republican bench is pretty deep for 2024/28.