2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[OfTheCross]

So he was a bum who couldn’t spin his senatorial advantage into prosperity ...yet we’re supposed to trust him to lead the country to prosperity

*ok, I really did just say that to *

SF is small #1, California is not the east coast, people enjoy seeing the sun and nice views, that plus earthquakes kept SF from building high rises, so off bat there is limited supply, then NIMBY’s who fight building, but even if you build it costs like $500k per unit (I think this is 600-700 sq ft) to build in SF, so that alone means you’re starting at a price point of $500k+ for a condo/home. Then comes the tech rush that has brought so many people to the region over the past 20-25 years, tech is all clustered in SF or the peninsula (and South Bay) meaning everyone wants to live in SF, if they’re young and wanting to go out, down the peninsula to San Jose - that adds even more pressure to housing there as more people move to the bay and then only cluster in one micro region

What's the best idea you've heard to combat this?

I'm surprised another state doesn't try to pull away some of the tech industry from SF

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

Obama, Trump, and 92 Clinton laid the playbook, populism is what wins and excites people to come out to the polls, not being a p*ssy ass safe moderate.

 

[Cheddar Biscuits]

Here we go...

Despite all of the monstrosities from this administration, D's will now be the ones on the defensive this election cycle. These are good, quality DEMOCRATIC candidates and members from the 2018 class that are about to be led to the slaughterhouse by someone who isn't even a member of the party. It's understandable why the party is freaking out. The fact that some of you feel no sympathy for these people is despicable.

The fact that you still haven't figured out that Bernie turns out moderate voters who also vote for downballot candidates is why you keep getting surprised when you lose.

 

[A.R.$]

I don't get this talk about "his plan ain't realistic" and "he'll never get it done" when it comes to m4a. What type of thinking is that. This is a fukkin revolution it's not no pull and tug war. If you think like that you'll never bring change. The truth of the matter is that democrats are divided because it's always been a fight against classes first and foremost. I mean there's dudes in the coli supporting a white supremacist in trump because they've been lied to by the liberal elites for decades after pretty much handing your vote constantly to them.

I’m not saying M4A will never pass but it highly unlikely it will to get through during his first term. Because Bernie is 78 it would be surprising if he would even run for a second term.

There just isn’t enough progressives in Congress to get it passed. Especially in the senate. You have to remember Joe Manchin is basically a Republican. We will have to wait at a minimum until 2022 to get more progressives in. Then you would have to go against history, because traditionally the party in power loses during mid term elections. Even if you get more progressives in, major legislation usually don’t get passed a year before an presidential election. IMO it will be after the 2024 elections when we will have a realistic shot at passing M4A.

What Bernie can realistically do during his first term is forgive student loan debt. He can do that without congress approval. He can make Marijuana legal. I think he can get a healthcare bill with a strong public option through. I think he can pass a major infrastructure bill, with elements of the Green New Deal in it. He might be able to get free college through Congress, but I think that will be harder than the rest of the bills I mentioned. He also will be able to reform our foreign policy.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Here we go...

Despite all of the monstrosities from this administration, D's will now be the ones on the defensive this election cycle. These are good, quality DEMOCRATIC candidates and members from the 2018 class that are about to be led to the slaughterhouse by someone who isn't even a member of the party. It's understandable why the party is freaking out. The fact that some of you feel no sympathy for these people is despicable.

Okay, let's DEAD this stupid shyt once and for all. Let me break it down for fools too scary to think straight.

#1. The first thing that matters is turnout. Sanders is the BEST candidate for increasing turnout. He's the favorite among latinos, the favorite among young people, the favorite among independents, the favorite among young blacks. NO ONE reaches those traditional low-turnout groups like he does. And the vast majority of them are gonna go blue down-ballot.

That alone will make Bernie a net positive for the down-ballot races no matter what else happens.



#2. Then maybe there are some Trump haters who can't stand Bernie and would never vote for him. Those are mostly going to be old White centrists, especially Hillary fans bitter from 2016. You think those people will stay home? Those kinda voters NEVER stay home. Even if they refuse to vote for Bernie, they're still the kind of loyal dems who will show up just to go Blue down-ballot. In fact they might be even more likely to do that because if they are shook of another four years of Trump then they'll be shook of him having Senate power for another term.


#3. So then lets pretend there are centrists who are so fukking right-wing that they will literally choose Trump over Bernie. Think for a moment - if they are centrists who would have voted for a Biden or a Buttigieg but not Bernie, then why would rejecting Bernie make them reject the down-ballot dems who are even more conservative than the presidential candidate they favored? Splitting the ballot is still a thing for some moderates, if they actually go so far as to reluctantly choose Trump over Bernie, then they'll probably be MORE likely to vote Blue down-ballot because they want to split the ballot and not give Trump too much power.


#4. Literally the only thing you have to worry about is Trump voter turnout. Except that his base is small and rabid. How much extra turnout do you think Trump really has? His base is already energized as fukk, why would nominating the most well-liked Democrat energize them significantly, when he's the guy who goes on Fox News town halls and Joe Rogan's show and wins over the crowds? He's the most trustworthy candidate on the Democratic side, he connects the most naturally to rural folk, he doesn't have any base of haters built in. How many people you seriously think are gonna be energized to vote against him who wouldn't be voting already?



Don't be stupid. Don't follow unbalanced political operatives like Nap who can't develop a coherent train of thought. I just laid it out for you - Sanders is the best candidate for down-ballot voters and you can't make a logical argument otherwise. If anyone REALLY thinks there's a different argument, then show me EXACT where those extra votes for Republicans would come from and why the extra votes from new pro-Bernie voters wouldn't vastly outweigh them.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Yo wtf? Who gave the go ahead for that shyt?

I was weirded out by that shyt too (why couldn't she just film in a barbershop) but I think it's just a random twitter influencer and not anyone actually associated with the campaign, which is why it looks so low-budget.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Someone HAS to get that to Bernie. Have his speechwriters put in a comeback line if anyone mentions his houses again. It doesn't even have to be Bloomberg - if ANYONE calls him a millionaire or talks about his houses, he can have a quality response that deflects the attention back to the billionaires and this is exactly the sort of info he can pivot off of well.



Confront Biden's South Africa lie and make fun of his being jealous of Bernie's real work on the streets
Mock Bloomberg's fishtanks and highlight how truly different billionaires are from the rest of us
Ignore Buttigieg completely
Ignore Klobuchar completely
Be gracious to anything Warren says and praise her even if she attacks him

That's the winning strategy for the next debate.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What's the best idea you've heard to combat this?

I'm surprised another state doesn't try to pull away some of the tech industry from SF

Seattle is trying and getting a piece of it. Oregon was trying and they got some of the chip-making shyt but less so the software side. I'm sure there are other states trying, issue is that good programmers make a lot of money and want to live someplace nice....and young nerds just plain like the West Coast.

 

[Uno Venova]

the boy who said Nina should have a muzzle...this is his response

 

[hayesc0]

the boy who said Nina should have a muzzle...this is his response

he is clearly lying but atleast he was forced to lean back lol.

 

[hayesc0]

Do you want every democrat facing this shyt in more moderate races????

YOU PEOPLE ARE CRAZY!!!!!










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He will be fine if he sticks to his guns and doesn't cower like a bytch for people who won't vote for him in the first place.

 

[mastermind]

Tagging 18 people and not getting a single dap

 

[hayesc0]

At this point I just hope Bernie wins (I’m doubtful) because we’re stuck with him now and the alternative is far more intolerable. It’s just wild to think about how fractured the Democratic Party’s looking right now. I was 19 when Barack ran in 2008 so I wasn’t as into politics but I don’t remember people on the left being so divided. We fighting like we not in the same party.

People say this every primary lol. shyt was a knock out drag out fight between Obama and Hillary.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

People say this every primary lol. shyt was a knock out drag out fight between Obama and Hillary.

They were going at each other crazy.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

At this point I just hope Bernie wins (I’m doubtful) because we’re stuck with him now and the alternative is far more intolerable. It’s just wild to think about how fractured the Democratic Party’s looking right now. I was 19 when Barack ran in 2008 so I wasn’t as into politics but I don’t remember people on the left being so divided. We fighting like we not in the same party.

People say this every primary lol. shyt was a knock out drag out fight between Obama and Hillary.

They were going at each other crazy.

Hillary surrogates were out there basically saying that Obama couldn't win cause he was Black and there were all sorts of wild racist subtexts to some of their shyt. And Hillary was extra harsh on him in the debates too. People forget that Obama dressed in Kenyan gear, Obama's pastor being Jeremiah Wright, Obama knowing Bill Ayers, Obama too inexperienced, Obama not being trustworthy to get that 3AM call, mocking Obama's "hope" message....ALL that was started in the primary, not in the general election. Even the birth certificate shyt started in the primary (though I don't think the DNC/Clinton had any part in that). Obama wasn't as bad back because he knew he was winning off a positive campaign and wanted to keep it that way, but he did say some passive-aggressive shyt that gave you the feeling he really didn't fukk with her. In the end about 15% of Hillary voters refused to vote for Obama (think they called them Cougars) but it didn't matter because his turnout operation and energy was so high.