2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

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the cac mamba said:
the meltdown that nap is having :laff:
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This whole down ticket shyt is total bullshyt :laff:

Bernie being on the ticket is going to keep moderates at home ??? They’re the ones that always vote

Republicans are gonna vote for Bernie and then split the ticket or some shyt ? That’s insane :laff:

Bernie having the attention of all these low frequency voters is gonna have a potential adverse effect or some shyt ???


The only group of supporters that even should have the balls to even try to attempt to make that goofy ass argument is Biden supporters..

the rest of y’all :stopitslime:
 
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Rhakim said:
Okay, let's DEAD this stupid shyt once and for all. Let me break it down for fools too scary to think straight.

#1. The first thing that matters is turnout. Sanders is the BEST candidate for increasing turnout. He's the favorite among latinos, the favorite among young people, the favorite among independents, the favorite among young blacks. NO ONE reaches those traditional low-turnout groups like he does. And the vast majority of them are gonna go blue down-ballot.

That alone will make Bernie a net positive for the down-ballot races no matter what else happens.



#2. Then maybe there are some Trump haters who can't stand Bernie and would never vote for him. Those are mostly going to be old White centrists, especially Hillary fans bitter from 2016. You think those people will stay home? Those kinda voters NEVER stay home. Even if they refuse to vote for Bernie, they're still the kind of loyal dems who will show up just to go Blue down-ballot. In fact they might be even more likely to do that because if they are shook of another four years of Trump then they'll be shook of him having Senate power for another term.


#3. So then lets pretend there are centrists who are so fukking right-wing that they will literally choose Trump over Bernie. Think for a moment - if they are centrists who would have voted for a Biden or a Buttigieg but not Bernie, then why would rejecting Bernie make them reject the down-ballot dems who are even more conservative than the presidential candidate they favored? Splitting the ballot is still a thing for some moderates, if they actually go so far as to reluctantly choose Trump over Bernie, then they'll probably be MORE likely to vote Blue down-ballot because they want to split the ballot and not give Trump too much power.


#4. Literally the only thing you have to worry about is Trump voter turnout. Except that his base is small and rabid. How much extra turnout do you think Trump really has? His base is already energized as fukk, why would nominating the most well-liked Democrat energize them significantly, when he's the guy who goes on Fox News town halls and Joe Rogan's show and wins over the crowds? He's the most trustworthy candidate on the Democratic side, he connects the most naturally to rural folk, he doesn't have any base of haters built in. How many people you seriously think are gonna be energized to vote against him who wouldn't be voting already?



Don't be stupid. Don't follow unbalanced political operatives like Nap who can't develop a coherent train of thought. I just laid it out for you - Sanders is the best candidate for down-ballot voters and you can't make a logical argument otherwise. If anyone REALLY thinks there's a different argument, then show me EXACT where those extra votes for Republicans would come from and why the extra votes from new pro-Bernie voters wouldn't vastly outweigh them.
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Thank you!!! Trump's base peaked in 2016 and gradually kept on losing voters. His base is dedicated, but small. People in HL and TLR think that Trump's base is big as Ronald Reagan.
 
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śïñe•qúå_nøn said:
democrats that win outside of Brooklyn can't be socialists.
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It was very telling that Sanders went on fox news and got a bunch of Republicans to raise their hand and say they like him.

Also I'll never forget in 2017 during the healthcare townhalls where Bernie has a bunch of rednecks in the south giving him standing ovations and these were many self described conservative.

It's not only about ideas but if you can sell them. I don't think an AOC type would do well in say West Virginia but your sherod browns and sander types can even thought their politics are even further left than standard Democrats.

Politics is a whole lot of emotional in addition to ideas. Democrats recently seem to have lost sight of that.
 
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NaijaProdigy Redux said:
My self-interests and Bernie don't align :ld:
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yeah, mine dont really either

the thing is tho, all the radical commie shyt hes proposing wouldnt even get through his own party :yeshrug: let alone the entire government. so theres not really anything to be "concerned" about. wed just get an honest president in there to address issues
 
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