2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[duncanthetall]

Officially never Warren. Biden is my #2.

 

[storyteller]

Officially never Warren. Biden is my #2.

I assume you’re messing with em, but Warren’s policy proposals still reflect a bigger move toward our goals. I’m not happy with the strategy shifts but I put that on the team around her. Plus it’s not like she didn’t already tell us she’d accept the extra money in a general (she caught flack for it but she was real
About it).

Bernie is far and away the better option for us lefties and our goals imo too. But it’s still the same line-up as before for who the best options are...Bernie then Warren then probably steyer then Biden then Pete then Bloomberg

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Bernie supporters got their own barbershop vid now.

 

[the cac mamba]

I assume you’re messing with em, but Warren’s policy proposals still reflect a bigger move toward our goals. I’m not happy with the strategy shifts but I put that on the team around her. Plus it’s not like she didn’t already tell us she’d accept the extra money in a general (she caught flack for it but she was real
About it).

can you explain to me the scenario how warren wins? im a warren voter from massachusetts. shes about to lose her own state

im not trying to be a dikkhead, its a serious question. i dont understand how you can delude yourselves with this outcome

 

[Uno Venova]

Bernie supporters got their own barbershop vid now.

I most forgot what real barbershops looked like

 

[Professor Emeritus]

can you explain to me the scenario how warren wins? im a warren voter from massachusetts. shes about to lose her own state

im not trying to be a dikkhead, its a serious question. i dont understand how you can delude yourselves with this outcome

Bernie gets a plurality, establishment refuses to put him over the top because they hate him and claim they're shook of the "socialist" label, but afraid they can't put Biden/Bloomberg there because the liberal segment would go into full rebellion mode. So Warren is chosen as the compromise candidate.

Unlikely, but it's almost certainly the reason she's still in the race.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

I assume you’re messing with em, but Warren’s policy proposals still reflect a bigger move toward our goals. I’m not happy with the strategy shifts but I put that on the team around her. Plus it’s not like she didn’t already tell us she’d accept the extra money in a general (she caught flack for it but she was real
About it).

Bernie is far and away the better option for us lefties and our goals imo too. But it’s still the same line-up as before for who the best options are...Bernie then Warren then probably steyer then Biden then Pete then Bloomberg

Question, and I'm not being facetious, are you Afram?

 

[storyteller]

can you explain to me the scenario how warren wins? im a warren voter from massachusetts. shes about to lose her own state

im not trying to be a dikkhead, its a serious question. i dont understand how you can delude yourselves with this outcome

I’m a bernie supporter, I don’t think Warren’s gonna win. I make that kinda clear in the second half of that post you clipped out

Im saying Warren’s a clear number two if we’re looking to push forward the most progressive agendas. Nothing to do with my belief of whether or not she can win whatsoever.

 

[Cheddar Biscuits]

 

[storyteller]

Question, and I'm not being facetious, are you Afram?

our goals = the goals of the left and the progressive movement fam. I’m Puerto Rican and Irish.

 

[Uno Venova]

This is funniest election cycle ever my nikka

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Bernie wants Medicare for All because no one will insure him at this point

 

[Pressure]

Noam Chomsky

Apparently this is from 2016 but I hadn't seen it. Just watched an interview though from Nov. 2019 where he predicts that Bernie won't get the nomination because the media/establishment will be going into overdrive to stop him.

Is he the front runner leading a revolution or is he just the most popular candidate in a crowded field?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Is he the front runner leading a revolution or is he just the most popular candidate in a crowded field?

How are those not both true?

Probably worth pulling up the rest of the statement and maybe it'll make more sense:

NOAM CHOMSKY: Well, Bernie Sanders is an extremely interesting phenomenon. He’s a decent, honest person. That’s pretty unusual in the political system. Maybe there are two of them in the world, you know. But he’s considered radical and extremist, which is a pretty interesting characterization, because he’s basically a mainstream New Deal Democrat. His positions would not have surprised President Eisenhower, who said, in fact, that anyone who does not accept New Deal programs doesn’t belong in the American political system. That’s now considered very radical.

The other interesting aspect of Sanders’s positions is that they’re quite strongly supported by the general public, and have been for a long time. That’s true on taxes. It’s true on healthcare. So, take, say, healthcare. His proposal for a national healthcare system, meaning the kind of system that just about every other developed country has, at half the per capita cost of the United States and comparable or better outcomes, that’s considered very radical. But it’s been the position of the majority of the American population for a long time. Right now, for example, latest polls, about 60 percent of the population favor it. When Obama put through the Affordable Care Act, there was, you recall, a public option. But that was dropped. It was dropped even though it was supported by about almost two-thirds of the population. You go back earlier, say, to the Reagan years, about 70 percent of the population thought that national healthcare should be in the Constitution, because it’s such an obvious right. And, in fact, about 40 percent of the population thought it was in the Constitution, again, because it’s such an obvious right. The same is true on tax policy and others.

So we have this phenomenon where someone is taking positions that would have been considered pretty mainstream during the Eisenhower years, that are supported by a large part, often a considerable majority, of the population, but he’s dismissed as radical and extremist. That’s an indication of how the spectrum has shifted to the right during the neoliberal period, so far to the right that the contemporary Democrats are pretty much what used to be called moderate Republicans. And the Republicans are just off the spectrum. They’re not a legitimate parliamentary party anymore. And Sanders has—the significant part of—he has pressed the mainstream Democrats a little bit towards the progressive side. You see that in Clinton’s statements. But he has mobilized a large number of young people, these young people who are saying, “Look, we’re not going to consent anymore.” And if that turns into a continuing, organized, mobilized—mobilized force, that could change the country—maybe not for this election, but in the longer term.

Noam Chomsky: Bernie Sanders is not a radical

 

[Serious]

@King Kreole no wonder @dora_da_destroyer is a Tom steyer advocate