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Those are warren stans ?:jbhmm:

Sorry. i quoted fake accounts. Here are their "real ones"
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Trump has already shown this is going to be a big part of his strategy against Biden, and from the reaction to his current gaffes, I highly doubt people are just going to ignore Biden's visible signs of dementia as he calls black kids dumb and confuses world leaders for their counterparts 20 years ago. They're going to have to Weekend at Bernie's this dude. It's gonna be ugly.

Like, I would be more inclined to agree with you if these weren't unforced errors by Biden, caused by his rapidly declining mental facilities. This isn't going to get better.

Any more questions? :mjgrin:
 

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What, Exactly, Is Tulsi Gabbard Up To?
As she injects chaos into the 2020 Democratic primary by accusing her own party of “rigging” the election, an array of alt-right internet stars, white nationalists and Russians have praised her.


By Lisa Lerer

  • Oct. 12, 2019
WASHINGTON — Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist, is impressed with her political talent. Richard B. Spencer, the white nationalist leader, says he could vote for her. Former Representative Ron Paul praises her “libertarian instincts,” while Franklin Graham, the influential evangelist, finds her “refreshing.”

And far-right conspiracy theorists like Mike Cernovich see a certain MAGA sais quoi.

“She’s got a good energy, a good vibe. You feel like this is just a serious person,” Mr. Cernovich said. “She seems very Trumpian.”

Among her fellow Democrats, Representative Tulsi Gabbard has struggled to make headway as a presidential candidate, barely cracking the 2 percent mark in the polls needed to qualify for Tuesday night’s debate. She is now injecting a bit of chaos into her own party’s primary race, threatening to boycott that debate to protest what she sees as a “rigging” of the 2020 election. That’s left some Democrats wondering what, exactly, she is up to in the race, while others worry about supportive signs from online bot activity and the Russian news media.

Perhaps strangest of all is the unusual array of Americans who cannot seem to get enough of her.

On podcasts and online videos, in interviews and Twitter feeds, alt-right internet stars, white nationalists, libertarian activists and some of the biggest boosters of Mr. Trump heap praise on Ms. Gabbard. They like the Hawaiian congresswoman’s isolationist foreign policy views. They like her support for drug decriminalization. They like what she sees as censorship by big technology platforms.

took credit for Ms. Gabbard’s qualification for the first two Democratic primary debates.

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Brian Levin, the head of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino, said Ms. Gabbard had “the seal of approval” within white nationalist circles. “If people have that isolationist worldview, there is one candidate that could best express them on each side: Gabbard on the Democratic side and Trump on the Republican side,” Mr. Levin said.

Ms. Gabbard has disavowed some of her most hateful supporters, castigating the news media for giving “any oxygen at all” to the endorsement she won from the white nationalist leader David Duke. But her frequent appearances on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show have buoyed her support in right-wing circles.

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Both Ms. Gabbard and her campaign refused requests for comment about her support in right-wing circles or threat to boycott the debate. Even some political strategists who have worked with her are at a loss to explain her approach to politics.

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That message resonates with many of Ms. Gabbard’s supporters. In a moment marked by fractured politics, Ms. Gabbard’s nontraditional positions are a major part of her appeal for voters seeking to break out of polarized partisan divisions. Joe Rogan, the popular podcast host, said he planned to vote for her. Jack Dorsey, the chief executive of Twitter, donated to her campaign.

But it’s also an argument that reminds some Democrats of the narrative pushed by Russian actors during the 2016 presidential contest, when an operation by internet trolls worked to manipulate American public opinion: that the electoral system is broken and cannot be trusted.

Some of those who have worked with Ms. Gabbard say that, as an Iraq war veteran whose chief message is that America should stop trying to police the world, she is representing viewpoints that draw support from an array of people in the United States as well as abroad.

“In reality, Tulsi is really running on an antiwar message that’s consistent with where a lot of veterans are,” said Jon Soltz, chairman of the liberal veterans organization VoteVets.org, which worked closely with Ms. Gabbard during her first congressional campaign. “I know everyone thinks there’s a conspiracy theory here but that’s really what she’s doing.”

Still, Democrats are on high alert about foreign interference in the next election and the D.N.C. is well aware of the frequent mentions of Ms. Gabbard in the Russian state news media.

An independent analysis of the Russian news media found that RT, the Kremlin-backed news agency, mentioned Ms. Gabbard frequently for a candidate polling in single digits, according to data collected by the Alliance for Securing Democracy, a group that seeks to track and expose efforts by authoritarian regimes to undermine democratic elections.

Disinformation experts have also pointed to instances of suspicious activity surrounding Ms. Gabbard’s campaign — in particular, a Twitter hashtag, #KamalaHarrisDestroyed, that trended among Ms. Gabbard’s supporters after the first Democratic debate, and appeared to be amplified by a coordinated network of bot-like accounts — but there is no evidence of coordination between these networks and the campaign itself.




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Volunteers before the start of the town hall event with Ms. Gabbard on Friday.CreditElizabeth Frantz for The New York Times
Laura Rosenberger, a former policy aide to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and director of the Alliance, sees Ms. Gabbard as a potentially useful vector for Russian efforts to sow division within the Democratic Party.

“The Russian activity could be part of a longer-term effort to drive a wedge among Democrats,” she said. “This messaging has echoes of 2016.”

That kind of speculation inflames Ms. Gabbard’s supporters online, who are known for swarming Ms. Gabbard’s critics on Twitter, for attacking the news media and the Democratic establishment for perceived bias against her and for compiling YouTube clips of her “destroying” and “shutting down” her Democratic rivals.

Ms. Gabbard’s fans are especially sensitive to claims that she is supported by Russian bots and amplified by the Russian state-funded news media outlets — a conspiracy theory, they say, that is designed to delegitimize her campaign and her foreign policy views.

“This whole thing the Democratic Party has done by putting forward this false idea that there was collusion between Russia and Trump has hurt our relations in a huge way with the Russians,” Mr. Graham said. “I can’t speak for Tulsi, but I think she feels kind of the same way on some of these things.”


While Democrats in Washington fret about Ms. Gabbard, her primary rivals have largely stayed silent, seeing little advantage in attacking a low-polling candidate.

She is likely to get harsher treatment back in Hawaii, where a cottage industry of researchers, former opponents and Democratic strategists has sprung up to track her connections and background and ties to the teachings of the guru Chris Butler, who founded The Science of Identity Foundation, and whose work she said still guides her. Ms. Gabbard has said the focus on her relationship with Mr. Butler and her faith was fueled by anti-Hindu bigotry.

support for Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India, who has empowered Hindu fundamentalists at great cost to India’s minorities. Ms. Gabbard also met with Egypt’s strongman leader, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, during a 2015 trip to Paris with Dana Rohrabacher, a former Republican congressman known for his ties to Russians.

Most controversially, she has repeatedly defended the brutal Syrian dictator, Bashar al-Assad, whom she met in January 2017.

Those positions confound even some of her former Republican supporters.

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a pro-Israel activist who founded the World Values Network, said he first met Ms. Gabbard through Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey, who brought the congresswoman to dinner at a kosher restaurant in Washington.

His group, which is funded by the Republican megadonors Sheldon and Miriam Adelson, awarded Ms. Gabbard their “Champion of Freedom Award” at their annual gala in 2016. A picture from the event shows a grinning Ms. Gabbard posing with Rabbi Boteach and Ms. Adelson.

In the three years since, Ms. Gabbard has criticized Israel for its reaction to protests, met with Mr. Assad and made several statements defending his regime.

“To have a moral woman like Tulsi who is a military hero suddenly sit with a man who did that was inexplicable,” Rabbi Boteach said. “I don’t understand it until today. I can’t figure her out.”


What, Exactly, Is Tulsi Gabbard Up To?


she needs to lose her seat

I don't think she's an agent. She's an extremely self-centered politician who is willing to form any allegiances she can, and push any narrative she can, in order to boost her own profile. And what makes it even worse is that she's so fundamentally mediocre as a politician that she ends up ONLY boosting those who use her.

She's the most attractive candidate ever, she has the military status, she gets all sorts of support from the Hindu community, she has Russians and right-wingers and online trolls all pushing her....and she STILL struggles to catch 2%???

Her caping for Modi has never helped anyone but Modi. Her caping for Assad never helped anyone but Assad. Her accusations against the DNC and Google haven't done anything for her candidacy, they've just reinforced far-right conspiracy theories. In her appearances on Tucker Carlsen and the other far right media, she hasn't done shyt to improve the standing of liberal ideas, she just improves her own standing while tearing down the eventual nominee.

Eventually her few remaining liberal stans are going to learn what everyone else already knows - she's a bad candidate who tries to prop up dictators and right-wingers in order to catch her own path to power, but she can't even do that right.
 

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to be fair im not a warren fan, im a bernie fan but warren is my 2nd choice, biden is maybe my last , def last of the top 3 and not even close to the other two, so take that how you want it but im not in the warren fan category.
 

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Looks like Bernie and now Warren gotta clean house:francis: @King Kreole




lmao if bernie ever did this , can you imagine? also i am not big on dem strategists saying essentially that bernie shouldve hired dem strategists. number one the obvious conflict of interest, number two since when are dem strategists good? they just lost to trump, they lost 1,000 seats. this is equivalent to the lobbyists being against bernies anti lobbying bill imo, bernie doesnt want to run a bullshyt campaign with yas queen moments with plants in the audience like warren just did, thats fake shyt. even you needing to do that to win, defeats the purpose anyway, just like taking big money defeats the purpose. its not win at all costs imo
 

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Looks like Bernie and now Warren gotta clean house:francis: @King Kreole




The reason Warren is running the best campaign is because her campaign officials/surrogates haven't made a habit of dumbass misteps like this one. Lau runs a tight ship, her team usually stays on code. I cringed heavy when I saw that Ashlee Marie Preston tweet. Attacking Bernie ain't the way at all.
 
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