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He doesn't even realize calling Warren a capitalist helps her. :wow:

I don't think he quoted her directly with a mind to hurt her. Everything else he said about her was complimentary in that answer and his only point of disagreement, he used her own words to point out. They'll let their surrogates play the game and keep up the truce a while longer. They've got more debates where it behooves them to cover each other.
 

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I don't think he quoted her directly with a mind to hurt her. Everything else he said about her was complimentary in that answer and his only point of disagreement, he used her own words to point out. They'll let their surrogates play the game and keep up the truce a while longer. They've got more debates where it behooves them to cover each other.
Did you see buttys numbers? Who the hell is supporting this guy? Eight percent!?
 

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Did you see buttys numbers? Who the hell is supporting this guy? Eight percent!?

He's right in the mix for the first three states and outperformed his numbers in caucus states (Iowa and Nevada are both caucus states). All three candidates are likely looking to using a strong early showing as a springboard.
 

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I don’t know wtf is up with this Warren stan contingent here.

I like her overall platform and I will vote for her, but to actually STAN Elizabeth fukking Warren on a hip-hop message board is just :mjlol:

These clowns form like Voltron to defend her against any valid criticism.

She does objectively have a serious problem with authenticity...

The Native American stuff which is well-documented in this thread does legitimately make her look fugazi.

Then her saying she never opposed gay marriage...GTFOH. A white Republican Christian woman in Oklahoma in 60s and 70s was pro gay marriage. Yeah ok.

And she was a Republican til she was 46 and supported the most establishment candidate ever vs. the progressive candidate in 2016.

Not to mention her foreign policy acumen and positions are unimpressive.

I’ll vote for her over Trump, but as far as the primary I’m going with real deal young Bern.
I don’t get the bolded. I think it silly to Stan anyone, but how is being a Warren Stan on a hip hop message board more laughable than standing Biden, or Sanders on a hip hop board? All three of them are old white politicians in their 70s.

For the rest of your points I just don’t think most people care about the Native American thing anymore. Voters definitely don’t care about if she supported gay marriage in the 60s and 70s, or this teacher thing. These are all lines of attacks that are not going to work.

If you really want to criticize Warren you should keep the attention on her foreign policy. Even as a Liz supporter I have to admit she leaves a lot to be desired in that category. Also, I have said in the past that Bernie’s student loan forgiveness program is much better than Warren’s plan. Bernie and his supporters can accurately point out over the last 4 years he has been the leader in pushing the healthcare debate. Those are all better arguments than the bullshyt that a lot of Liz haters are pushing.
 
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I don’t get the bolded. I think it silly to Stan anyone, but how is being a Warren Stan on a hip hop message board more laughable than standing Biden, or Sanders on a hip hop board? All three of them are old white politicians in their 70s.

For the rest of your points I just don’t think most people care about the Native American thing anymore. Voters definitely don’t care about if she supported gay marriage in the 60s and 70s, or this teacher thing. These are all lines of attacks that are not going to work.

If you really want to criticize Warren you should keep the attention on for foreign policy. Even as a Liz supporter I have to admit she leaves a lot to be desired in that category. Also, I have said in the past that Bernie’s student loan forgiveness program is much better than Warren’s plan. Bernie and his supporters can accurately point out over the last 4 years he has been the leader in pushing the healthcare debate. Those are all better arguments than the bullshyt that a lot of Liz haters are pushing.
I agree foreign policy is her weakest point substantively.

I don’t know how you can say you don’t think voters care about the Native American thing ANYMORE because most voters don’t even know her yet, or only know her in passing. I follow politics much more closely than the average person and I didn’t even know the full extent of the facts around it and how ridiculous it makes her look until a few weeks ago.

She has not been vetted by the general election voting public yet. I personally think when she is, and all her juelzing about high cheekbones and Cherokee Romeo & Juliet :duck: , her insistence on being identified as a minority throughout her professional career, etc., all culminating in a flopped DNA test and an apology after 70 years of claiming to be Indian gets put on front street a lot of undecided voters will be like

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Not because of just that but the overall sense that she’s fake and can’t be trusted. That’s the type of shyt that’s important to a lot of undecided voters. Some Warren stans here act like the out of touch affluent coastal liberals elites they’re stereotyped to be. Everybody doesn’t care about all that wonky technocratic shyt. It would be nice if everyone did but they don’t. Plus who gives a fukk if she has a plan but doesn’t have the ovaries to stick to her guns?

And I could be wrong, but to act like it’s a closed issue is just not true. We have to see.
 
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He's right in the mix for the first three states and outperformed his numbers in caucus states (Iowa and Nevada are both caucus states). All three candidates are likely looking to using a strong early showing as a springboard.
Did you see buttys numbers? Who the hell is supporting this guy? Eight percent!?
He is very popular on the Acela Corridor. Also a potential VP pick for Biden.
 
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