2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[the next guy]

I don’t think that’s going to happen. Iowa, and NH will shape the race. Iowa is close but from most accounts Liz is leading there, and in NH. Plus she have made significant gains in S.C. Bernie still have a shot as well. Mayor fukkboy Pete have zero shot of winning the nomination, but could pull an upset in Iowa. Those polls will dramatically change after the first few contests. I will say this though. If Biden wins Iowa or NH he will probably won the nomination. If he does win the nomination I doubt he would pick any of the names you mentioned. I think it’s going be a mixed gender ticket no matter who gets the nomination.

I disagree, other then the mid september surge, biden has been leading practically every poll since he got in. I don't think it will be a mixed gender ticket either, part of "normalcy" will be two boring white guys talking about the economy. Kamala or Stacy are not "back to normal" for moms in suburban Chicago or Detroit. Ryan brings Ohio, Moulton is a vet and Bullock doubles down on experience and covers Biden on domestic issues. And I don't want to hear it from black people when it happens breh, because black people will have chosen that ticket.

How can we complain about representation or whatever when given the power, we choose the same. Can Biden win? Yes. 40 States? I believe so. But it shows we have learned nothing from the Trump era.

Naw most of the accounts that support Liz says she's winning. Neutral polls say otherwise.

Iowa and NH due not shape a race btw. A guy named Bill Clinton got blown out in both states and still became president. If Biden pulls out one of those states its over. I think he wins IOWA personally.

Even if he doesn't win those, he's still in line to clean up on super tuesday. I say this as someone leaning warren right now.

 

[88m3]

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[Warren Moon]

Most of the recent polls in Iowa and NH have Liz up, or tied with Biden.
Iowa Polls
New Hampshire Polls
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Iowa Democratic Presidential Caucus

Yes,
Bill Clinton didn’t win Iowa and still won the nomination, but he was the last Dem to do so. The last four democratic nominees won Iowa. John Kerry was polling at like 3 percent before he won Iowa. Obama was way behind Hillary in national polls before he won Iowa. And even though Bernie lost Iowa he performed better than expected, and that helped him to make it a real contest instead of Hillary cruising to the nomination.

Thats what i meant. Most of the ones having her winning are the lowest-rated polls.

Obama, and Hilary Clinton were in two horse races.

I think this election better fits the Kerry and Bill Clinton years in which there are more than 3 legit candidates. We'll see tho.

 

[A.R.$]

I disagree, other then the mid september surge, biden has been leading practically every poll since he got in. I don't think it will be a mixed gender ticket either, part of "normalcy" will be two boring white guys talking about the economy. Kamala or Stacy are not "back to normal" for moms in suburban Chicago or Detroit. Ryan brings Ohio, Moulton is a vet and Bullock doubles down on experience and covers Biden on domestic issues. And I don't want to hear it from black people when it happens breh, because black people will have chosen that ticket.

How can we complain about representation or whatever when given the power, we choose the same. Can Biden win? Yes. 40 States? I believe so. But it shows we have learned nothing from the Trump era.

Even if he doesn't win those, he's still in line to clean up on super tuesday. I say this as someone leaning warren right now.

We might have to agree to disagree. I would be shocked if we don’t have a mixed ticket.

I look more at the state polls than national polls. As I just posted Liz is in great position to win the first two contests, and Biden is not leading by much in Nevada which is the third contest.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Nevada Democratic Presidential Caucus This is a extremely close three way race right now. Plus Liz is in get position to win California.

 

[A.R.$]

Thats what i meant. Most of the ones having her winning are the lowest-rated polls.

Obama, and Hilary Clinton were in two horse races.

I think this election better fits the Kerry and Bill Clinton years in which there are more than 3 legit candidates. We'll see tho.

It wasn’t just a two way race in 08. It became a two way race after S.C. In 08 John Edwards was a strong candidate. He was the vice presidential nominee in 04, and was polling ahead of Obama in certain states. It was a three way race with a bunch of other candidates running kinda like it is now. I don’t think this current primary have more that 3 legit candidates that can win. It basically been Biden, Warren, and Sanders for months.

 

[Warren Moon]

It wasn’t just a two way race in 08. It became a two way race after S.C. In 08 John Edwards was a strong candidate. He was the vice presidential nominee in 04, and was polling ahead of Obama in certain states. It was a three way race with a bunch of other candidates running kinda like it is now. I don’t think this current primary have more that 3 legit candidates that can win. It basically been Biden, Warren, and Sanders for months.

I means that’s subjective. Edwards didn’t get a shot to win his home state. He didn’t win any state from what I recall. I fully expect Bernie to stay in long enough to win his home state and possibly others.dudes been on a fukk the dnc troop for 4 decades now. He’s going to fight, fight, fight. I don’t agree with his policies. But that attitude has made the dnc more vocally progressive. We’ll see what the polls say. Personally I don’t think we’ve moved as left as many ppl claim bc of social media.

Biden supporters are rooting for Bernie every day. He’ll hand us the nomination.

He’s old, unfortunately just had a heart attack. He has nothing to lose, he’s staying until the end

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

If you are only telling your kid to be subservient so they can come home alive, you're failing as a father and complicit in the perpetuation of the system of white supremacy. You're giving only one half of The Talk (the way things are) but not giving the other half (why things are this way and how to change it). That was the problem with Bernie's answer. It's disempowering and normalizes this fukked up intolerable state of affairs. It doesn't educate your child or spur them to engage in the type of civic activity needed to change the system. I don't think it was a horrible answer or disqualifying or anything, just incomplete. But I only saw what was being sent around in that clip, so maybe he gave a more complete answer later on.

You’re white and from Europe. Shut the fukk up.

 

[88m3]

idk about you guys but I don't really give a shyt about how white ass Iowa and NH feel

 

[King Kreole]

You’re white and from Europe. Shut the fukk up.

Imagine a rabidly anti-semitic Indian who will never, ever in his short life be capable of producing black children calling me a white European when my ancestors died fighting white Europeans. You ain't got this bloodline bro, this conversation ain't for you. Be useful and take your ass back to the subcontinent and fight the fascists in control of your government. Try not to fall in with your neo-nazi brethren on the way.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Imagine a rabidly anti-semitic Indian who will never, ever in his short life be capable of producing black children calling me a white European when my ancestors died fighting white Europeans. You ain't got this bloodline bro, this conversation ain't for you. Be useful and take your ass back to the subcontinent and fight the fascists in control of your government. Try not to fall in with your neo-nazi brethren on the way.

That’s funny cause I’m half black and my daughter is 3/4th black, you stupid fukk.

You’re a cracker from Europe trying to tell black people in America how their kids should deal with racism.

If you’re not, then you pretended to be. I don’t know what’s more pathetic.

Either way, stfu about black peoples’ issues in America. Go talk about Brexit or rugby.

 

[King Kreole]

That’s funny cause I’m half black and my daughter is 3/4th black, you stupid fukk.

You’re a cracker from Europe trying to tell black people in America how their kids should deal with racism.

If you’re not, then you pretended to be. I don’t know what’s more pathetic.

Either way, stfu about black peoples’ issues in America. Go talk about Brexit or rugby.

Then take your half-Indian ass and sit in that corner over there with Kamala, ain't no one ask you a damn thing. Derailing threads and wasting everyone's time because you still mad I ragdolled you 4 years ago. Pull ya skirt down and grow up. nikka out here doing fractions when talking to a 100% black man

 

[Warren Moon]

Then take your half-Indian ass and sit in that corner over there with Kamala, ain't no one ask you a damn thing. Derailing threads and wasting everyone's time because you still mad I ragdolled you 4 years ago. Pull ya skirt down and grow up. nikka out here doing fractions when talking to a 100% black man

But you’re a European? Any opinion you have in here doesn’t mean shyt

 

[King Kreole]

But you’re a European? Any opinion you have in here doesn’t mean shyt

I'm not no damn European, I was just born there

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Then take your half-Indian ass and sit in that corner over there with Kamala, ain't no one ask you a damn thing. Derailing threads and wasting everyone's time because you still mad I ragdolled you 4 years ago. Pull ya skirt down and grow up. nikka out here doing fractions when talking to a 100% black man

1. You said you’re a white Slovenian.

2. Even if you were lying about being white, you’re not lying about being European cause you say shyt like “cheque.”

3. During the time you supposed “ragdolled” me you’re referring to, you were stanning Trump harder than anyone on this site.

4. You’re not qualified to speak on the experiences and realities of raising black children in America, so stfu. Your opining on the issue itself is an insult.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

But you’re a European? Any opinion you have in here doesn’t mean shyt

He told everyone he was Slovenian, now he’s not Slovenian.

But yeah he’s a euro. A euro who spent the 2016 election cycle telling black people how it’s in our best interest to elect Trump.

Now apparently we all need to vote for Elizabeth Warren and we’re failures as parents if we don’t teach our kids to turn into martyrs for freedom when they get pulled over by racist cops.