2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

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Armchair Militant said:
Bernie should drop out of the race.

I wonder who Bernie Bros have as their backup plan. They've been attacking Warren a lot lately. :patrice:
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Bernie ain’t dropping outta shyt anytime soon.

But if he does I’m leaning Warren or Harris. The only people attacking Warren folks are the people getting mad online because people think we should just....not be sexist and go for Warren. As if her vagina is what’s holding us back from just being behind her. Nah, Warren isn’t as progressive as Bernie on a lot of things and has been not a republican for like 2 decades.

Sorry I’m not as enthusiastic about her as I am about a guy who’s been walking the walk his entire life. :yeshrug:
 
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my main problem is her bad medicare for all messaging but yang and warren would see a boost

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I keep trying to pound the point home that a small but vocal contingent of Bernie supporters are being used to characterize the whole collective when a vast majority are reasonable but with politics to the left of the general public. If you hear them out, it's typically founded in real strategic differences and nothing disingenuous (Michael Brooks is exhibit A of being mischaracterized btw). We can critique Warren and still treat her as well to the left of any realistic options we've had in a long time...we SHOULD be debating strategy and going in on the more in depth aspects of the issues where we share a same goal.
 
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Mephistopheles said:
What do you mean "this is just categorically false"? :what:

You are attempting to conveniently limit the scope of her Native American controversy to being solely about whether or not she got career benefits over claiming it, that's why you keep harping on that Boston Globe article and ignoring overall issue. It's almost like Trump saying "no collusion!" over and over and ignoring all over proof of malfeasance.

-FACT: She falsely claimed being Native American into her 60's.

-FACT: She gave an elaborate story about her parents eloping over her mom's fictional Delaware and Cherokee heritage as late as 2012 that has been debunked with receipts by actual American Indian tribal leaders.

-FACT: She listed herself as Native American while she was a professor, allowing universities to tout her as a minority professor, helping to fill university diversity statistics and potentially keeping out actual minorities from her faculty position.

-FACT: Time and time again when asked to provide any documentary evidence of her Cherokee heritage, she has refused or failed. When asked by the Boston Herald, she cited 2 things: a geneologist who suggested with no evidence that she might be 1/32 Cherokee, and a book of recipes she submitted to a Cherokee cookbook called Pow Wow Chow that seemed to have been plagiarized from the NYT in 1984. When asked later she cited her high cheekbones and once told a reporter she has family pictures but they're for her when asked if she had pictures to prove her family's heritage.

-FACT: She finally took a DNA test last year and it showed she was 1/1000 something American Indian and cited this as proof. She later apologized after being ridiculed.

I don't know how anyone can look at any of that and come away not feeling she has been dishonest and fake about who she is, and it will give most voters a negative reaction.

Do I think any of this should or will disqualify her for President, or will it stop me from voting for her? No.

But it is a real issue that deserves scrutiny not a smear, and it will come up. Scoffing at it like it's a non-factor is dumb. It's going to keep coming up and your girl better do a better job of addressing it than she has done so far.
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Compare the Coli's response to Rachel Dolazel and Shaun King with Warren. They have decided to give her a pass because she's the closest the establishment could get to finding the Not Bernie. They'll throw all that talk about white privilege and identity politics out the window to keep Bernie away from the oval office.

Speaking of identity politics, read my vampire castle thread.
 
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