Bernie is a smart politician. I never heard him say that M4A will pass during his first term. He has done a great job in pushing it to the mainstream. There was zero talk of single payer in the mainstream until Bernie started to push it in 2015. It has made a lot of progress in four years. However, it is going to take at least another 4/5 years to get it passed. I do think Bernie could get a decent amount of people to march for it. I don’t think it will make a difference though.Fair point. When you ask Bernie about actually trying to implement M4A through Congress, he doesn’t give you a real answer. He says some shyt like “The American people will march on the streets and demand it”. No the fukk they won’t Bernie, you know that
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I got to wonder whether some of you guys are really Democrats with the amount of Republican talking points you spew
You don’t even have the majority of Dems who are for M4A, I know it’s hard for a lot of the far left to believe, but some people actually like their primary care providers. How about the Government works on getting the VA taken care of with all the complaints they get form veterans before trying to overhaul the private healthcare industry.
You don’t like Moderate Democrats, you like far left liberals.
they act like everyone follows these far left twitter writers and watch the YouTube far left pundits that average 10-20k views per video.
no one knows who those ppl are
The majority of democrats are moderates. Don’t let twitter fool you.
Seriously. Who does statements like that help? Bernie is still polling pretty well. Newsflash fukkos: you need us. I voted for Hillary in the general last time. Her attacking my him out of the blue for no fukking reason except for Twitter likes and blue check screams of “shade” is the opposite of showing solidarity and is what leads to some folks just flat out just not showing up at the polls.
What a stupid fukking group of people she and especially her supporters are. So goddamn cocky you’d think they didn’t absolutely embarrass the hell out of themselves in 2016. Literally running around just SURE Hillary was going to be elected. Showing your clown ass faces and doing the same clown ass shyt all over again.
We’ve made fun of Trump constantly for 3 years talking about how pathetic and incompetent he is. That’s who Hillary lost to. FOH. Her opinion means squat.
Nope Wrong. Bernie was my preference in 2016 but I’m smart enough To fall in line when HILARY was the nomination. HILARY was leaps and bounds more experience and more prepared for office and I know the country would be in a much better position if she would’ve been president.
they act like everyone follows these far left twitter writers and watch the YouTube far left pundits that average 10-20k views per video.
no one knows who those ppl are
The majority of democrats are moderates. Don’t let twitter fool you.
Biden must be giving you that bag
Yo I don’t listen to these nerdy ass YouTube/Twitter journalist that get up in arms And are ready to roast you on their makeshift studios
cenk and Sam Seder are the only ones I fukk with. The rest are dweebs.
I know we don’t have the majority of Dems. That is the point I been making the whole time.
Yes a lot of people like their primary care but what happens if you get laid off? Or if you go over the allotted amount your insurance allows a year? Or you have an emergency but the provider that can see you is out of network? I could go on, but that’s not the point.
I actually use the VA for my primary care. While it is not perfect, it is not bad either. When I hurt my wrist boxing last year, I was able to get my MRI, and wrist brace for free. Like private hospitals, some VA hospitals are better than others. Also active duty Air Force hospitals were the best hospital/care I ever had, and that is completely government ran.
John Reena
Superstar
Progressives gotta step out they echo chambers ASAP.
Just to clarify my point I meant we don’t have the majority of Dem politicians. Polls show most Dems support M4A. However, keeping private insurance and adding a public options polls higher among everyone.
Biden must be giving you that bag
Yo I don’t listen to these nerdy ass YouTube/Twitter journalist that get up in arms And are ready to roast you on their makeshift studios
cenk and Sam Seder are the only ones I fukk with. The rest are dweebs.
I get u. That’s still not the reality 80% of democratic voters see.
Jhoon
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Why does it poll higher?
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
my whole issue with bernie's proposals...pie in the sky, getting people fired up over shyt that will not happen, and if it does, definitely not within the 4 years he has to be president - old ass aint getting 2 terms
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Nah, it has poisoned the medical coverage discussion. You got tons of money being spent to fight M4A and it's poisoning the concept of public coverage in general. additionally, it turned off voters who never wanted to be forced into a public healthcare plan.
If the conversation would have been centered around a true public option and people having the choice of who/where they want to be covered (private/employer or public) i think the conversation and appetite for change would have gone a lot better and would look a lot more achievable in the next term (if a dem wins). Now you have centrists who really aren't proposing to do shyt and progressives stuck to an unrealistic, losing proposition. I don't think we're in a better place right now as far as moving to a system where all people have coverage and, in addition to being fine with my private coverage, that has always been why i've never been a backer of m4a even as a liz supporter.