2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Warren Moon]

I think Bernie, I think we fare better with him. We need left policies in place to help us, I know they aren’t gonna be a magical fix all but I believe we’ll do much better with left policies and on top of that if he or Warren truly go after corporations and the wealthy it helps us even more.

I don’t see Biden doing much with centrist policies. We’ve been there already, plus as a nation we need to shift left.

Look at Biden's tax plans man, I think you'll be surprised.

I'd rather be at the table, but that's just me. To each their own.

 

[Cognito]

Why are people going crazy about Mayor Dweeb's consulting work when he was most know for capping for his Klan police department the last few years.

 

[JoogJoint]

Guys, most black people support Biden. We rag on @Warren Moon but that is who most black people are voting for, since March Break. Problem is we need to get our parents to reconsider. If you think that there won't be more gaffes during a Biden presidency, I have a river to sell you in British Columbia. I can see Joey easily making Macron's wife squirm.

My parents are Black Baby Boomers and they support Biden and Klobuchar.



They're not reconsidering either.

 

[JoogJoint]

Do we have the same parents?

We all must have the same parents because a lot of Black elders put policy on the back burner.

 

[JoogJoint]

Do we have the same parents?

We all must have the same parents because a lot of Black elders put policy on the back burner.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

black ppl asked him to not institute bussing breh y’all have got to take articles written by Bernie supporters as 100 tru

they didn’t want to send their kids to the white suburbs where they knew no one. It was a safety issue. Just look it up. Joe Biden didn’t just compromise with segregationists. He fought for their cause in schools, experts say.
the naacp wanted to have bussing in every city, the local black community didn’t. He followed their requests.


Bernie also said the reason white ppl in Mississippi didn’t vote for Obama wasn’t bc of racism.

If Biden's team wants to make this an effective argument, then they need to show what bill 1975 Biden had that was an alternative to busing. Because right now, all it looks like is, "I don't want these black kids next to these white kids".

 

[Miles Davis]

Look at Biden's tax plans man, I think you'll be surprised.

I'd rather be at the table, but that's just me. To each their own.

We’ll never be at the table until we have our own politicians.

 

[Warren Moon]

We’ll never be at the table until we have our own politicians.

which is why we can’t let elite liberals establish what a pure leftist liberal is.

they can get donations from white people bc white ppl have more money.

Black liberals can’t compete with that, if/when we do get one on a national stage, they’ll get chastised for not having the processes Bernie and Warren have. That’s why I can’t ride with them trying to re-establish the liberal wing. They’re keeping out blacks candidates.

 

[King Kreole]

to the first part - you not caring about those things doesn't mean that's not what he valued and took away from mckinsey, that's what we're discussing, why he found that to be a pivotal starting place.

Well yeah, this is my whole point. He's saying he took value away from learning the McKinsey system. I believe that system is a fukked up way to approach governing. I'm not arguing he actually believes what I believe, I'm just arguing what I believe. If someone says "I took away a lot of value from my time as a cop learning the ropes at the Chicago Police Department", I'm not just gonna be like "welp, live and let live, they have their values and I have mine!" I'm gonna interrogate that position, especially when that person is running to be the fukkin President.

ok breh....


it's amazing that the loudest people whining about this are folks who have absolutely no desire to vote for him, not even considering him. would be one thing if this was actually resounding from people who are actually interested in him/want to vote for him

It seems like we just have a difference of opinion when it comes to the laudability of McKinsey. I critique them because when I look at their record, I see fukkery. I don't revere corporate titans or believe firms like McKinsey are beyond reproach because they're havens for elites. I think that, in fact, should make them targets for scrutiny. I find these appeals to the virtue of the plutocracy to be grotesque. Basically, I fukk with Anand Giridharadas.

 

[Warren Moon]

If Biden's team wants to make this an effective argument, then they need to show what bill 1975 Biden had that was an alternative to busing. Because right now, all it looks like is, "I don't want these black kids next to these white kids".

I mean y’all need to realize that blacks aren’t a monolith now and blacks weren’t a monolith in 1975. Lots of wanted equal rights but wanted to be in charge of their own communities(I.e separated) they had valid reasons for believing in that too.

the naacp didn’t speak for all black ppl back then or now

 

[Secure Da Bag]

I mean y’all need to realize that blacks aren’t a monolith now and blacks weren’t a monolith in 1975. Lots of wanted equal rights but wanted to be in charge of their own communities(I.e separated) they had valid reasons for believing in that too.

the naacp didn’t speak for all black ppl back then or now

That's great. But he still needs to show what his alternative bill was in 1975.

 

[Miles Davis]

which is why we can’t let elite liberals establish what a pure leftist liberal is.

they can get donations from white people bc white ppl have more money.

Black liberals can’t compete with that, if/when we do get one on a national stage, they’ll get chastised for not having the processes Bernie and Warren have. That’s why I can’t ride with them trying to re-establish the liberal wing. They’re keeping out blacks candidates.

So better the devil you know?

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

which is why we can’t let elite liberals establish what a pure leftist liberal is.

they can get donations from white people bc white ppl have more money.

Black liberals can’t compete with that, if/when we do get one on a national stage, they’ll get chastised for not having the processes Bernie and Warren have. That’s why I can’t ride with them trying to re-establish the liberal wing. They’re keeping out blacks candidates.

Biden is a centrist (borderline conservative) corporate wallstreet candidate, if you think he’s going to fight for working class people you’re completely delusional

 

[Warren Moon]

So better the devil you know?

I firmly believe black politicians represent the black initiative more than the average white politician. When the left wing of the party full embraces multiple black leaders, I can ride with them.

 

[Warren Moon]

Biden is a centrist (borderline conservative) corporate wallstreet candidate, if you think he’s going to fight for working class people you’re completely delusional

His nick name is Middle/Working Class Joe


He’s the only one who didn’t use the political office to write a book for his own personal monetary gain while in office. Unlike warren/Bernie

He refused to accept any speeches on Wall Street. He did not get a dime from them. He only would speak at Universities/colleges or civic organization/non profits

bro what r u talking about?

Liz was an anti bankruptcy pro corporate lawyer for almost 20 years!