2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Warren Moon]

I thought this was an issue he cared about and was a friend to Black people. That's how you painted it, the administration he was a part of couldn't push the insurance companies? The were after all making everyone get insurance.

Oh you’re trying to be a revisionist. Do u even know what the Aca actually is? And what changes were made to payment policies?


Insurers weren’t and still aren’t required to participate in the Aca.

The public option is administered by the government.

 

[acri1]

George Conway (@gtconway3d) on Twitter

i usually read the twitters of a few of these dudes like george conway, the Never Trumpers who speak for a fair amount of republicans. im trying to look ahead to october on this

remember republicans' whole strategy last election? "oh, i know trump is terrible but ill still vote for him over hillary clinton, we cant have that". well its just gonna be the same exact strategy with bernie or warren. whereas if the nominee is biden... that bullshyt wouldnt work nearly as well. theres a reason obama successfully made biden his VP. frankly i think biden wins in 2016 too

i can see the never trump coalition getting behind biden, which could swing it. zero chance they get onboard with bernie

There's really no such thing as a "never Trump coalition" they're all going to make some excuse to vote for Trump when the election gets closer, regardless of the Dem candidate.
Trump is the most popular president with Republican voters since Reagan. People are kidding themselves if they think any significant amount of Republicans would even think of voting against him.



The more important thing is who will get unreliable Democratic voters to actually show up to the polls.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I just want to say fukk nap

History didn't end in the 50s

 

[the cac mamba]

There's really no such thing as "never Trump coalition" they're all going to make some excuse to vote for Trump when the election gets closer, regardless of the Dem candidate.
Trump is the most popular president with Republican voters since Reagan. People are kidding themselves if they think any significant amount of Republicans would even think of voting against him.



The more important thing is who will get unreliable Democratic voters to actually show up to the polls.

Never Trumpers are irrelevant. They are on cable news and write in newspapers. They aren’t a voting constituency

completely disagree you only get two choices in an election, and if the democrats run a boogeyman like hillary clinton or a "socialist" like bernie, theyre gonna lose. whereas if they run someone enough republicans and moderates can stomach switching to, in THIS election against trump, they probably win

its killing me that you guys are concerned about dem turnout when trump is the opponent hes the single biggest gift to dem turnout in 100 years


that poll someone just posted, where biden is the only dem who beats trump in florida. are you really just writing that shyt off

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Oh you’re trying to be a revisionist. Do u even know what the Aca actually is? And what changes were made to payment policies?


Insurers weren’t and still aren’t required to participate in the Aca.

The public option is administered by the government.

So no answer?
You are painting a difference between Bernie and Biden that Bernie is unconcerned about Black people and Biden cares deeply. Where is the evidence on this issue? He had a chance to at least argue against the medical necessity issue you are so offended by and didn't. But you say no problem. But when Bernie doesn't include it in his plan it is a big affront to Black people. Please be consistent.

 

[Warren Moon]

So no answer?
You are painting a difference between Bernie and Biden that Bernie is unconcerned about Black people and Biden cares deeply. Where is the evidence on this issue? He had a chance to at least argue against the medical necessity issue you are so offended by and didn't. But you say no problem. But when Bernie doesn't include it in his plan it is a big affront to Black people. Please be consistent.

bidens cosponsored black civil rights bills. Bernie has not.


I gave you an answer but it’s just u don’t have the fundamental understanding about the difference between a public option and a private plan. Obamacare dictated pre existing conditions not payment policy.

Is there a reason why your so passionate about defending Bernie keeping in medical necessity when it’s an actual issue?

It seems ur just trying to defend Bernie not his policy.

 

[King Kreole]

 

[AnonymityX1000]

bidens cosponsored black civil rights bills. Bernie has not.


I gave you an answer but it’s just u don’t have the fundamental understanding about the difference between a public option and a private plan. Obamacare dictated pre existing conditions not payment policy.

Is there a reason why your so passionate about defending Bernie keeping in medical necessity when it’s an actual issue?

It seems ur just trying to defend Bernie not his policy.

No one was talking about that, Bernie marched and protested against segregation Biden did not.
And I am asking why not? He fought for civil rights, he cares deeply about Black people but was just, "Ah . . . oh well." on medical necessity? Are you saying it is possible to get insurance companies to honor pre existing conditions but not ignore medical necessity?
I never defended it I asked you about Biden's inconsistency on it after you brought it up.
And you are doing the same regarding Biden.

 

[Warren Moon]

No one was talking about that, Bernie marched and protested against segregation Biden did not.
And I am asking why not? He fought for civil rights, he cares deeply about Black people but was just, "Ah . . . oh well." on medical necessity? Are you saying it is possible to get insurance companies to honor pre existing conditions but not ignore medical necessity?
I never defended it I asked you about Biden's inconsistency on it after you brought it up.
And you are doing the same regarding Biden.

Again man, u don’t understand the difference between payment policies and insurance eligibility.

payments not ran by the government are not controlled by the government, that’s in most industries. Medical necessity is a payment policy. The government can’t tell insurance companies what to pay hospitals. That’s why trumps trying to get hospitals to show prices.

You’re very confused about how the Aca even works. The hypothetical situation ur presenting has no basis in reality.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Again man, u don’t understand the difference between payment policies and insurance eligibility.

payments not ran by the government are not controlled by the government, that’s in most industries. Medical necessity is a payment policy. The government can’t tell insurance companies what to pay hospitals. That’s why trumps trying to get hospitals to show prices.

You’re very confused about how the Aca even works. The hypothetical situation ur presenting has no basis in reality.

Why can the government dictate to insurance companies eligibility and not payment policy? Just cause?
And how does it fall under payment policy anyway? I thought the issue was denying certain treatments for diseases that effect Black people more than the avg.?

 

[Warren Moon]

Why can the government dictate to insurance companies eligibility and not payment policy? Just cause?

yea. That’s how non communist economies work.

The government can’t tell private companies what to charge on anything.

they can however control price increases like utilities, rent etc.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

yea. That’s how non communist economies work.

The government can’t tell private companies what to charge on anything.

they can however control price increases like utilities, rent etc.

Uh I thought the issue was medical necessity for certain diseases, not how much it costs?

 

[Warren Moon]

Uh I thought the issue was medical necessity for certain diseases, not how much it costs?

medical necessity is a payment policy. It lets you choose what u want to pay for.

it’s a payment. The word payment is a synonym for the word charge.

but just to make it even simpler for u. Medical necessity let’s you decide which “charges” your going to pay for or not.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

medical necessity is a payment policy. It lets you choose what u want to pay for.

it’s a payment. The word payment is a synonym for the word charge.

but just to make it even simpler for u. Medical necessity let’s you decide which “charges” your going to pay for or not.

So the government can make insurance companies pay for pre existing conditions; diseases you're born with but not other diseases that disproportionately effect Black people? Seems arbitrary to me.