2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

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acri1 said:
There's no such thing as a "moderate" or "swing voter" in 2020. Pretty much everybody knows what side they're on. :yeshrug:

I'm pretty sure 99% of voters know if they support Trump or not, it's just a matter of turnout.
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I know I'm beating a dead horse, because I always take the opportunity to bring her up in these conversations. But what you're getting at is covered pretty heavily by Rachel Bitcofer, the pollster who got the Blue Wave prediction almost exactly right prior to 2018 (and a couple of months ahead of any other pollster so she was way ahead of the norms). Her explanations of negative partisanship are really worth hearing out or reading. She's got a good interview on Majority Report from a while back and I think Salon did an interview with her a while back too. Essentially, by her theory, the independents that decide swing states aren't changing their minds from blue to red. But rather from "I need to go vote" to "I think I'll just stay home" and a big driving force for turnout can be negative partisanship which is to vote AGAINST someone rather than FOR someone. In a way oversimplified example, I'd point to how the incumbent party usually loses seats in midterms. Independents leaning toward the minority party have more urgency to turn up in those instances. But that's extremely oversimplified and I'd say to check out Bitcofer's actual words to get a better idea.

Side note: This absolutely co-signs what you're saying on turnout. And Bitcofer sees Latino outreach for "get out to vote" initiatives is an untapped resource Democrats should look to utilize more. It's also why I have some hopes that Bernie's targeting of younger generations that have historically been less reliable voters can turn into a successful strategy.
 
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dora_da_destroyer said:
they all do...bernie promising pipedreams and rainbows is no different knowing that shyt aint going to get done. but his coalition wants the government to pay their way though life and that's the message he gives them
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Just say you hate working class people and that you supported Warren because she’s the most viable woman who doesn’t turn you off. That’s how this reads. Every single positive thing that has ever happened in this country began with insurmountable odds. By your logic, no Democrat running for President should promise to fight for anything because Mitch will make it too hard.
 
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No1 said:
Just say you hate working class people and that you supported Warren because she’s the most viable woman who doesn’t turn you off. That’s how this reads. Every single positive thing that has ever happened in this country began with insurmountable odds. By your logic, no Democrat running for President should promise to fight for anything because Mitch will make it too hard.
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don't read into it that seriously breh, breathe.


edit: and i'm a realist, i wont apologize for not believing in radical change post reagan, at least not quickly [i.e. a one term presidency]. i'm more than glad to be wrong, but when i have conversations about anything in life, i look at the realistic outcome/possibility. if yall want to be idealist, please continue, but stop acting like everyone has to see the world that way.
 
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