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She released a plan that does not call for increasing taxes on the middle class.

I can't say exactly what Bernie will do because he hasn't released a detailed plan for how he will fund it, but he has said he intended to increase middle class taxes by 4-6% I believe.
ill have to google it, because bernie is clearly the one telling the truth here :yeshrug:

so warren is just gonna find 3 trillion per year without raising taxes on the middle class? :dahell::russ:

She's taxing employers

How Warren's Medicare for All plan could impact the middle class financially - CNNPolitics

Companies would write a check to the federal government for 98% of their current health insurance tab to foot nearly half bill for Medicare for All. She calls this $8.8 trillion levy an "employer Medicare contribution."
That could hurt the middle class in a roundabout way, say some experts. Workers typically receive lower wages because companies factor health insurance costs into their total compensation. So if employers no longer had to pay for health coverage, they would use some of the savings to boost salaries, according to Howard Gleckman, senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center, a joint program of the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution.

"She has found a clever way to make middle-income people finance a portion of government health insurance without paying a direct tax," Gleckman said. "But make no mistake, they still will be paying."

:comeon:

And then there's exceptions for employers that classify their workers as independent contractors or have less than 50 employees, an easy evasion for a lot of these crooks.


 

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:mjlit: destroy a close friendship for 0% poll gain brehs


I saw on TV today and I find it funny she doesn't want to talk about something SHE exacerbated in the first place. That's my pet peeve with Warren. She can't handle sh_t when she's confronted. If you're going to continue a feud, then be prepared to be confronted on it. Simple as that.

She doesn't want to talk about it because it backfired badly on her and Bernie didn't have to say or do much to get it backfired on her.

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I saw on TV today and I find it funny she doesn't want to talk about something SHE exacerbated in the first place. That's my pet peeves with Warren. She can't handle sh_t when she's confronted. If you're going to continue a feud, then be prepared to be confronted on it. Simple as that.

She doesn't want to talk about it because it backfired badly on her and Bernie didn't have to say or do much to get it backfired on her.

:mjgrin:
She doesn't want to talk about it because she didn't leak it. The leak hurt her more than it helped her, and she knew this from the beginning.
 

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I find it utterly fascinating that the same group of people who lament that Warren railroad Bernie are the same ones who are politically 'slut shaming' her now.

Some of Bernie's followers are a piece of work.
Things a troll, agent, or blue check Twitter shill would say :what:

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Can’t trust it :mjpls:
 
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How Warren's Medicare for All plan could impact the middle class financially - CNNPolitics

Companies would write a check to the federal government for 98% of their current health insurance tab to foot nearly half bill for Medicare for All. She calls this $8.8 trillion levy an "employer Medicare contribution."
That could hurt the middle class in a roundabout way, say some experts. Workers typically receive lower wages because companies factor health insurance costs into their total compensation. So if employers no longer had to pay for health coverage, they would use some of the savings to boost salaries, according to Howard Gleckman, senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center, a joint program of the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution.

"She has found a clever way to make middle-income people finance a portion of government health insurance without paying a direct tax," Gleckman said. "But make no mistake, they still will be paying."

:comeon:

And then there's exceptions for employers that classify their workers as independent contractors or have less than 50 employees, an easy evasion for a lot of these crooks.

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This is a standard conservative economics talking point they use to justify corporate tax cuts, saying the savings will trickle down to workers. Anyone trying to say direct taxes are the same as indirect taxes is selling trickle down snake oil.
 

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She doesn't want to talk about it because she didn't leak it. The leak hurt her more than it helped her, and she knew this from the beginning.

Then the smart thing would have been to quietly coordinate with Bernie about how to respond instead of throwing him under the bus. Or just go with the already working answer of "that's private". But oh well. You live, you learn.
 

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This is a standard conservative economics talking point they use to justify corporate tax cuts, saying the savings will trickle down to workers. Anyone trying to say direct taxes are the same as indirect taxes is selling trickle down snake oil.
I just ignored it because it was absurd :mjlol:
 

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Then the smart thing would have been to quietly coordinate with Bernie about how to respond instead of throwing him under the bus. Or just go with the already working answer of "that's private". But oh well. You live, you learn.
Bernie is the one who immediately escalated by saying the allegation was ludicrous and her staff leaked, insinuating they did it for political gain. His team is actually the one who drove this whole narrative of "someone must be lying!" with that initial response. He put everyone into a box.
 
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