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This is dumb as hell by Tulsi. This suit will end up in the bushes.

Hillary has to KNOWINGLY smear her with false info for the case to have any legs.

Based on Tulsi’s actions, it might be reasonable for someone to think she may run for a 3rd party, or is working with Russia even if it’s conjecture.

Tulsi clout-chasing as usual. This is one of wackest beefs ever. Washed up former main event heel vs. struggling to reach midcard heel. Bob Backlund vs. Disco Inferno.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tulsi's entire goal is to sow discord on the left. Dunno if she's an agent or just a (barely) undercover Republican but it's beyond obvious she's not on the up-and-up.
 

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tulsi's entire goal is to sow discord on the left. Dunno if she's an agent or just a (barely) undercover Republican but it's beyond obvious she's not on the up-and-up.
Or she wants to change the party that lost to Donald Trump and lost over a 1000 seats during the Obama administration.
 

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I remember someone breaking down some polls, mostly ones that had Biden leading , and showing that the vast majority of polling is still landline based. When he broke out the non-landline stuff it showed Bernie leading by a comfortable margin. This was a few months ago.

I have a feeling that Iowa will be a shock for a lot of people. Yeah older people are more likely to vote and most likely to have landlines but these days the only old people who might hang on to a land line are geriatrics. Even 40-50 yo's are mostly just mobile now n
Bernie out performed the polls last go around in Iowa. If any polling shows him within 3pts, he's probably going to win with his ground game.

If Bernie wins Iowa and then goes on to win NH, Warren has the obligation to suspend and endorse.
 

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Or she wants to change the party that lost to Donald Trump and lost over a 1000 seats during the Obama administration.

Trump's win and the loss of Democratic power was 90% due to backlash against having a black president rather than anything Obama did specifically.

And I don't see what Tulsi wants to change that would be helpful. She barely even talks about domestic policy, all she does is bash other Democrats and say "stop the wars!" over and over.
 

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Trump's win and the loss of Democratic power was 90% due to backlash against having a black president rather than anything Obama did specifically.

And I don't see what Tulsi wants to change that would be helpful. She barely even talks about domestic policy, all she does is bash other Democrats and say "stop the wars!" over and over.
What does Trump's win have to do with Obama's ethnic background? He was running against a fellow white person. And Dems loss across the nation has more to do with an incoherent platform. Dems don't offer anything substantial.
Her strength is foreign policy but she has a well thought out policy agenda in all areas. And yeah she is right about the wars. Her Democratic colleagues talk about how dangerous Trump is but then give him more money for defense and increase his spying powers. Is that coherent policy to you?
 

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Trump's win and the loss of Democratic power was 90% due to backlash against having a black president rather than anything Obama did specifically.

So the Obama/Trump voters that voted for him twice were just so disgusted about their mistake of letting him in the white house to run his black fingers all over the rails and fixtures just decided to correct their decisions with by putting the orange skull in office?

:russ:

Nah, it all boils down to racism, sexism...not the fact that given the choice between giant douche and a turd sandwhich, they chose the one who would at least be entertaining while promising (and delivering) to shyt on the ridiculous norms of the political process that people are either indifferent to or plain sick of.

Trust, there was plenty of racism, sexism to go around, Trump was able to apply the same "southern strategy" to get cacs agitated and active, but Hilary was a bad egg, period.

And nobody was nearly excited to go to bat for her, or the DNC's political legacy as Trump's base was to make everybody who laughed at him, and disregarded them as 'deplorable' eat crow. Especially after Obama sweet talked the base into believing he was 'progressive' when he was really a self described moderate republican, he was a let down.

And even then...he said that if he could have ran for a third term he would have beat Trump (he would have)...unless you think that's completely off base, putting it all off on Obama backlash is a weak ass deflection.
 

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Trump's win and the loss of Democratic power was 90% due to backlash against having a black president rather than anything Obama did specifically.

And I don't see what Tulsi wants to change that would be helpful. She barely even talks about domestic policy, all she does is bash other Democrats and say "stop the wars!" over and over.
Trump winning is a direct result of establishment democratic politics. There were a ton of trump voters who voted for Obama. Trump ran on an anti corruption (drain the swamp) and bring the troops home rhetoric. Believe it or not voters are tired of status quo establishment politics and politicians and Trump was an “outsider” who claimed he was going to change things in Washington. If Democrats refuse to accept this & nominate someone like Biden we will lose again
 

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What does Trump's win have to do with Obama's ethnic background? He was running against a fellow white person. And Dems loss across the nation has more to do with an incoherent platform. Dems don't offer anything substantial.
Her strength is foreign policy but she has a well thought out policy agenda in all areas. And yeah she is right about the wars. Her Democratic colleagues talk about how dangerous Trump is but then give him more money for defense and increase his spying powers. Is that coherent policy to you?

Trump literally got into politics by bashing Obama nonstop and spreading false claims that he wasn't an American citizen. America rewarded him with the presidency.

You can play dumb and pretend that (along with the rise of the Tea Party/Alt-Right and higher percentage of white voters voting Republican after Obama got elected) has nothing to do with race if you want :rudy: but I doubt anybody really believes that.


And if Dems didn't approve the budget there would just be endless government shutdowns. They're not controlling the House.
 

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So the Obama/Trump voters that voted for him twice were just so disgusted about their mistake of letting him in the white house to run his black fingers all over the rails and fixtures just decided to correct their decisions with by putting the orange skull in office?

:russ:

Nah, it all boils down to racism, sexism...not the fact that given the choice between giant douche and a turd sandwhich, they chose the one who would at least be entertaining while promising (and delivering) to shyt on the ridiculous norms of the political process that people are either indifferent to or plain sick of.

Trust, there was plenty of racism, sexism to go around, Trump was able to apply the same "southern strategy" to get cacs agitated and active, but Hilary was a bad egg, period.

And nobody was nearly excited to go to bat for her, or the DNC's political legacy as Trump's base was to make everybody who laughed at him, and disregarded them as 'deplorable', especially after Obama sweet talked the base into believing he was 'progressive' when he was a self described moderate republican.

Obama said that if he could have ran for a third term he would have won again (he would have)...unless you think that's completely off base, putting it all off on Obama backlash is a weak ass deflection.

I'm not defending Hillary. Anybody who was here in 2016 knows I'm not a fan of her and actually voted for Bernie in the primary.

But acting like Trump's rise and the general loss of Democratic power wasn't backlash against Obama is at best extremely naive.
 

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I'm not defending Hillary. Anybody who was here in 2016 knows I'm not a fan of her and actually voted for Bernie in the primary.

But acting like Trump's rise and the general loss of Democratic power wasn't backlash against Obama is at best extremely naive.



Let's be reality breh, Obama himself, the person that all these people hated so much that they just had to vote in Trump ,would have mopped the floor with that clown. Unless you're saying otherwise, the math isn't really adding up.

:francis:
 
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Trump literally got into politics by bashing Obama nonstop and spreading false claims that he wasn't an American citizen. America rewarded him with the presidency.

You can play dumb and pretend that (along with the rise of the Tea Party/Alt-Right and higher percentage of white voters voting Republican after Obama got elected) has nothing to do with race if you want :rudy: but I doubt anybody really believes that.


And if Dems didn't approve the budget there would just be endless government shutdowns. They're not controlling the House.
Two people just quoted you saying different so your doubt is unwarranted. lol
Actually, they do control the House, what are you talking about? :dahell:
 
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